It's a week after 2.1

[nostrade]

although i havent finished coil, i do agree if compared to WoW end game raid, FF doesnt have much end game raid content... only 4 bosses? and 3 same bosses that you have beaten twice now
FF should have a lot content, they have a lot of material to do this.. FF1-FFX alone is enough material

i wish they make a raid like the black temple, karazhan or w/e most of wow raid are interesting anyway

[Edenholt]

although i havent finished coil, i do agree if compared to WoW end game raid, FF doesnt have much end game raid content... only 4 bosses? and 3 same bosses that you have beaten twice now
FF should have a lot content, they have a lot of material to do this.. FF1-FFX alone is enough material

i wish they make a raid like the black temple, karazhan or w/e most of wow raid are interesting anyway

Stop comparing everything to WoW. World of Warcraft is older, years of content and you're not taking in consideration how it were when it started. FF14 aren't a big mix of all Final Fantasies in one, it's an individual game with elements common to the series and come cameos. As the game get expansion patches and then a proper expansion, then we will have more and more content. Just like every single game ever.

[nostrade]

Stop comparing everything to WoW. World of Warcraft is older, years of content and you're not taking in consideration how it were when it started. FF14 aren't a big mix of all Final Fantasies in one, it's an individual game with elements common to the series and come cameos. As the game get expansion patches and then a proper expansion, then we will have more and more content. Just like every single game ever.

why not? i know WoW is old, but thats why SE can learn from them, make atleast 2 raid content
wow is old and there is no real mmo back then (only EQ and UO?), therefore no example to follow, they set new era
this is 2013 lot of mmo around, why do SE have to start this game like there is no raiding mmo around?

the argument of "wow is old" is useless, open your eyes this is 2013 lot of mmo around, lot of example around

[SinisterJoint]

why not? i know WoW is old, but thats why SE can learn from them, make atleast 2 raid content
wow is old and there is no real mmo back then (only EQ and UO?), therefore no example to follow, they set new era
this is 2013 lot of mmo around, why do SE have to start this game like there is no raiding mmo around?

the argument of "wow is old" is useless, open your eyes this is 2013 lot of mmo around, lot of example around

EQ had tons of raid content back then, but it hasd also been out for a few years.

Something to remember, when WOW launched, it had less content (end game and dungeon wise) than ARR did at launch. SO the whole "learn form wow" is moot

[Orryo]

To prepare yourself for WoWs end game material several months after WoW was released you had to run anywhere from 10 to 100's of runs in the same dungeons, over and over and over, to get the gear you needed to spend hours, and hours, clearing trash in 1 raid, day after day after day, week after week, gearing up your guild so you could keep spending more hours in the same raid killing the trash again, and again and again, so you could fight the same boss again and again and again, for months. The icing on the cake was, you hope you had at least 40 people online in your guild. If people didn't log on, you had to wait minutes and minutes and minutes maybe even hours to form the raid to spend the hours and hours clearing that excess of endgame. Wait no, it wasn't end game, it was simply monotony. Rome wasn't built in a day.

[Sapphic]

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Just to have 1 or 2 people quit the game and have to start over again. Then repeat the same thing for the next tier.

Was a reason it got called Molten Chore XD

[cloverkitty]

, i do agree if compared to WoW end game raid, FF doesnt have much end game raid content... only 4 bosses? and 3 same bosses that you have beaten twice now

So now we are comparing the content of a game that has had over 10+ years of content developments to a game that has had less than 6 month? That makes no sense.

Under that same arguement FFXI has far more content than FFXIV (also 10+ years of development).

In 10+ years FFXIV will have plenty to do (although those that play non stop except to sleep and don't experience anything outside).
There is no way to make enough content to satisfy this type of person.

Final release was the initial offering.
2.1 is the completion of most of the content that is did not make it to final release
2.2 is the completion of any remaining pieces plus the beginning of the building of this game.

If you are burning content so fast maybe you need more than 1 game, or you need to experience the world outside your window/door.