Thread: It's a week after 2.1

Originally Posted by Orryo

I have no problem admitting I am not good at pvp. Judging by what you have said, your tried it at some point in a MMO and it wasn't for you. As far as I can tell all teams are privy to these abilities, and have the freedom to form a team that's smarter, quicker and more talented at CC'ing and coordinating? Or do people just have a real hard time accepting that it takes a degree of cunning and cooperation to accomplish victory? 6 seconds, 30 seconds or a 5 min CC, doesn't matter If you know how to do it better. Capitalize on each others strengths and protect weaknesses.

Actually, I PvP a lot across many different types. MMOs, MobA's, FPS's, etc. I enjoy PvP a lot. It's fun, it's dynamic, and it's a good way to see how well you can cut your teeth against other people.

But MMO PvP is almost always frustrating and poorly thought out because it's always designed as an after thought. Classes have heaps of abilities, dedicated healers are a frustrating wrench that can single-handedly dictate the entire style of a PvP system, and CC is generally overdone.

Sure, you can say that if all classes had a five minute CC, it'd be balanced, because it's whoever hits their button faster wins, but it's a horrible balance. Whoever hit the button first would win, no contest, on a five-minute CC. Sleep is far from the only problem in this game, though. Playing whack-a-mole with WAR-SCH-SMN-SMN is an excersize in futility that I've not seen matched in any other system to date.

I don't understand how people get to the end so quickly - or why they'd want to.

The pride at achieving everything must be tempered by the fact that you've played yourself out of the game.

Deepest respect to the OP, but go play something else until 2.2.

Originally Posted by Orryo

Judging by what you have said, your tried it at some point in a MMO and it wasn't for you.

lolarena is a terrible MMO PvP format. I bet they thought they could get in on the e-sport business, but with 500k or fewer subs they'll never reach e-sport status in the first place.

Yeah just go pvp that is beein infested with filthy exploiters and talk about content after.

You did absolutely everything from 2.1, included Tribes at maximum rank ?

It's a week after 2.1

And I have played 400 PvP games with no plan of stopping

although i havent finished coil, i do agree if compared to WoW end game raid, FF doesnt have much end game raid content... only 4 bosses? and 3 same bosses that you have beaten twice now
FF should have a lot content, they have a lot of material to do this.. FF1-FFX alone is enough material

i wish they make a raid like the black temple, karazhan or w/e most of wow raid are interesting anyway

Originally Posted by nostrade

although i havent finished coil, i do agree if compared to WoW end game raid, FF doesnt have much end game raid content... only 4 bosses? and 3 same bosses that you have beaten twice now
FF should have a lot content, they have a lot of material to do this.. FF1-FFX alone is enough material

i wish they make a raid like the black temple, karazhan or w/e most of wow raid are interesting anyway

Stop comparing everything to WoW. World of Warcraft is older, years of content and you're not taking in consideration how it were when it started. FF14 aren't a big mix of all Final Fantasies in one, it's an individual game with elements common to the series and come cameos. As the game get expansion patches and then a proper expansion, then we will have more and more content. Just like every single game ever.

Originally Posted by Edenholt

Stop comparing everything to WoW. World of Warcraft is older, years of content and you're not taking in consideration how it were when it started. FF14 aren't a big mix of all Final Fantasies in one, it's an individual game with elements common to the series and come cameos. As the game get expansion patches and then a proper expansion, then we will have more and more content. Just like every single game ever.

why not? i know WoW is old, but thats why SE can learn from them, make atleast 2 raid content
wow is old and there is no real mmo back then (only EQ and UO?), therefore no example to follow, they set new era
this is 2013 lot of mmo around, why do SE have to start this game like there is no raiding mmo around?

the argument of "wow is old" is useless, open your eyes this is 2013 lot of mmo around, lot of example around

Originally Posted by nostrade

why not? i know WoW is old, but thats why SE can learn from them, make atleast 2 raid content
wow is old and there is no real mmo back then (only EQ and UO?), therefore no example to follow, they set new era
this is 2013 lot of mmo around, why do SE have to start this game like there is no raiding mmo around?

the argument of "wow is old" is useless, open your eyes this is 2013 lot of mmo around, lot of example around

EQ had tons of raid content back then, but it hasd also been out for a few years.

Something to remember, when WOW launched, it had less content (end game and dungeon wise) than ARR did at launch. SO the whole "learn form wow" is moot