Thread: It's a week after 2.1

Originally Posted by nostrade

although i havent finished coil, i do agree if compared to WoW end game raid, FF doesnt have much end game raid content... only 4 bosses? and 3 same bosses that you have beaten twice now
FF should have a lot content, they have a lot of material to do this.. FF1-FFX alone is enough material

i wish they make a raid like the black temple, karazhan or w/e most of wow raid are interesting anyway

Stop comparing everything to WoW. World of Warcraft is older, years of content and you're not taking in consideration how it were when it started. FF14 aren't a big mix of all Final Fantasies in one, it's an individual game with elements common to the series and come cameos. As the game get expansion patches and then a proper expansion, then we will have more and more content. Just like every single game ever.

Originally Posted by Orryo

I have no problem admitting I am not good at pvp. Judging by what you have said, your tried it at some point in a MMO and were not good either. Like many, your ego got in the way and you can not admit there are people better at it. As far as I can tell all teams are privy to these abilities, and have the freedom to form a team that's smarter, quicker and more talented at CC'ing and coordinating? Or do people just have a real hard time accepting that it takes a degree of cunning and cooperation to accomplish victory? 6 seconds, 30 seconds or a 5 min CC, doesn't matter If you know how to do it better. Capitalize on each others strengths and protect weaknesses.

No, MMO PVP is scoffed at by nearly progamers of every genre. It is generally regarded as the joke of the industry.

Originally Posted by nitram

Please strictly speak for yourself please.
I like this game and I think it\\'s awesome.

Been enjoying it since 2.1 and still enjoying it!

Sorry can't edit on mobile. Since v.1!!!

Too much content! I am running around panicking because it at this rate I won't even be able to finish 2.1 by the time 2.2 is out!

To prepare yourself for WoWs end game material several months after WoW was released you had to run anywhere from 10 to 100's of runs in the same dungeons, over and over and over, to get the gear you needed to spend hours, and hours, clearing trash in 1 raid, day after day after day, week after week, gearing up your guild so you could keep spending more hours in the same raid killing the trash again, and again and again, so you could fight the same boss again and again and again, for months. The icing on the cake was, you hope you had at least 40 people online in your guild. If people didn't log on, you had to wait minutes and minutes and minutes maybe even hours to form the raid to spend the hours and hours clearing that excess of endgame. Wait no, it wasn't end game, it was simply monotony. Rome wasn't built in a day.

like everything this game has pro's and con's. I have made the choice to play this over other games because i love final fantasy and i trust that this game will get better content. The PvP has, in my opinion, been done very poorly, but there will always be those that will take offence to that opinion, so sorry. I see people complaining about no content, because they complete everything extremely fast, and "no life" it. But just because you reach the end of something does not mean that it is over. Enjoy what you have accomplished, use your ability to help others, just use it for the sake of using it and try mixing it up a little bit. Honestly, what is the rush?

Everything job maxed
Full ilvl90 on 2 classes, mix of 80/70 on the other.
Crafter full hq.
Clerared all the contents.
160 morale on brd..

yeah is going to be boring until 2.2 for me :\

Originally Posted by Orryo

I have no problem admitting I am not good at pvp. Judging by what you have said, your tried it at some point in a MMO and it wasn't for you. As far as I can tell all teams are privy to these abilities, and have the freedom to form a team that's smarter, quicker and more talented at CC'ing and coordinating? Or do people just have a real hard time accepting that it takes a degree of cunning and cooperation to accomplish victory? 6 seconds, 30 seconds or a 5 min CC, doesn't matter If you know how to do it better. Capitalize on each others strengths and protect weaknesses.

Actually, I PvP a lot across many different types. MMOs, MobA's, FPS's, etc. I enjoy PvP a lot. It's fun, it's dynamic, and it's a good way to see how well you can cut your teeth against other people.

But MMO PvP is almost always frustrating and poorly thought out because it's always designed as an after thought. Classes have heaps of abilities, dedicated healers are a frustrating wrench that can single-handedly dictate the entire style of a PvP system, and CC is generally overdone.

Sure, you can say that if all classes had a five minute CC, it'd be balanced, because it's whoever hits their button faster wins, but it's a horrible balance. Whoever hit the button first would win, no contest, on a five-minute CC. Sleep is far from the only problem in this game, though. Playing whack-a-mole with WAR-SCH-SMN-SMN is an excersize in futility that I've not seen matched in any other system to date.

Originally Posted by Edenholt

Stop comparing everything to WoW. World of Warcraft is older, years of content and you're not taking in consideration how it were when it started. FF14 aren't a big mix of all Final Fantasies in one, it's an individual game with elements common to the series and come cameos. As the game get expansion patches and then a proper expansion, then we will have more and more content. Just like every single game ever.

why not? i know WoW is old, but thats why SE can learn from them, make atleast 2 raid content
wow is old and there is no real mmo back then (only EQ and UO?), therefore no example to follow, they set new era
this is 2013 lot of mmo around, why do SE have to start this game like there is no raiding mmo around?

the argument of "wow is old" is useless, open your eyes this is 2013 lot of mmo around, lot of example around