FFXIV: Different and Unique

[Shikyo]

Alastor i can honestly say in 4+ years playing XI i never had any problem whats so ever finding a party i always made my exp partys and that is no jack ass bs lie, sorry

The search and party systems worked very well and if you were'nt looking for the "traditional set up" tank ddx2 blm rdm whm, which most were'nt the game allowed alot of variety tp burn parties mp burn ect ect you should have never sat for hours.
Unless you were the type to just put seek flag up and afk, if you were active and gave a little bit of effort getting/finding/making a exp party was extremely easy, I'm sorry.

[Alastor]

Alastor i can honestly say in 4+ years playing XI i never had any problem whats so ever finding a party i always made my exp partys and that is no jack ass bs lie, sorry

The search and party systems worked very well and if you were'nt looking for the "traditional set up" tank ddx2 blm rdm whm, which most were'nt the game allowed alot of variety tp burn parties mp burn ect ect you should have never sat for hours.
Unless you were the type to just put seek flag up and afk, if you were active and gave a little bit of effort getting/finding/making a exp party was extremely easy, I'm sorry.

For you, my friend, it may have been easy, but I am not the only one to attest to the hours of sitting, waiting to play. Perhaps if you played a more desirable job you may have not had these issues, but whenever I played THF or MNK, I sat for a very long time.

Forgive me, but I played FFXI from 2004-2010, in which, I took a few months of leave. I was very active in the community on Sylph for a long time. You do not need to apologize to me for having what seems to be the greatest luck of any player I've ever encountered. When I started the game, I had many, many friends who played, and did not ever have a hard time finding a party. Even in the last few months of play, I was in a still-active linkshell (now on Titan) and we grouped together all of the time.

Regardless of both of our experiences, the same cannot be said for everyone else. I know many, many people who were turned off to the game because of the difficulties of finding a party. The learning curve on XI was pretty high for the average gamer. Not everyone has the resources or the time to waste in front of their computer.

[Besbeset]

For you, my friend, it may have been easy, but I am not the only one to attest to the hours of sitting, waiting to play. Perhaps if you played a more desirable job you may have not had these issues, but whenever I played THF or MNK, I sat for a very long time.

Forgive me, but I played FFXI from 2004-2010, in which, I took a few months of leave. I was very active in the community on Sylph for a long time. You do not need to apologize to me for having what seems to be the greatest luck of any player I've ever encountered. When I started the game, I had many, many friends who played, and did not ever have a hard time finding a party. Even in the last few months of play, I was in a still-active linkshell (now on Titan) and we grouped together all of the time.

Regardless of both of our experiences, the same cannot be said for everyone else. I know many, many people who were turned off to the game because of the difficulties of finding a party. The learning curve on XI was pretty high for the average gamer. Not everyone has the resources or the time to waste in front of their computer.

I can't agree with this, I'm sorry.

After many years playing many different games, and some of them MMO, I must say that probably my greatest and happiest moments playing any game were on FFXI experience points partys or any other FFXI stuff (Quests/Missions/High end PVE...) were you must set up a party to accomplish.

There must be diversity on games, all of them can't be a WoW style where you can level up playing alone. I don't enjoy online games that promotes the solo style against the group one.

You needed sometimes a lot of time to find a party? Yes, that's true, but the system can't be perfect, and in fact mainly it was the people who plays the game who makes the system fails. You had hard times finding partys because 70% of the base player were DD, and the rest 30% mixed between tanks and healers.

And if you turn the jobs to be more hybrid so people isn't forced to play with some fixed classes there will be complaints about lack of uniqueness (like actually on XIV) .... so there you have it.

About the time needed to play this kind of games.... well, not all the games fits with everyone's live and this is a fact. But you can pretend to change the whole game just because it don't fits with your actual free time. Let others enjoy it, and choose another one, there are plenty of them.

And I'm sorry, I'm not being rude with this, this is only my point of view about games and everyone's free time.

And as Skykho said, I had also no issues almost everytime I tried to build up a PT on FFXI.

And btw, we aren't in a race. If I really enjoy the experience, I personally don't care if I need 6 months to level up a job/class or whatever to his maximum level. The hardest the way, the greatest the reward.

Sorry if there are any grammatical mistakes.

[Shikyo]

For you, my friend, it may have been easy, but I am not the only one to attest to the hours of sitting, waiting to play. Perhaps if you played a more desirable job you may have not had these issues, but whenever I played THF or MNK, I sat for a very long time.

Forgive me, but I played FFXI from 2004-2010, in which, I took a few months of leave. I was very active in the community on Sylph for a long time. You do not need to apologize to me for having what seems to be the greatest luck of any player I've ever encountered. When I started the game, I had many, many friends who played, and did not ever have a hard time finding a party. Even in the last few months of play, I was in a still-active linkshell (now on Titan) and we grouped together all of the time.

Regardless of both of our experiences, the same cannot be said for everyone else. I know many, many people who were turned off to the game because of the difficulties of finding a party. The learning curve on XI was pretty high for the average gamer. Not everyone has the resources or the time to waste in front of their computer.

My life is extremely full atm but with some of my downtime i would enjoy playing ffxiv if it were fun, challeging, strategic had a nice sized community or any of the staples ppl who play the mmorpg genre have come to know as the basics of what makes a mmo good.

Saying that i dont have as much time now as I did when i played XI but that doesnt mean i would accept a game that lacks so much just so it can be played by the casual player, I mean they made a terrible game that even a person that doesnt play alot wouldnt enjoy.
I seriously cant stomach this game for more then 20 mins at the most.

I guess some wanted a dumbed down massively multiplayer rpg with no challange i didnt though.
Sure XI required a little skill and some effort, it wasnt for the lazy gamer that really didnt have the time or patience to play.

It just seems this game cant please both the casual player and serious player, I think they have to choose.

Who would make them more money if all i had was 1 hour a day to play i probably wouldnt be willing to pay a monthly fee for a mmorpg... The MMORPG genre and casual players just dont mix.
The serious/hardcore players are where they will make their money longterm IMO,
I would think thats what they need to aim for that group of players, and this "FF for dummies" isnt what will keep the majority of that group playing, thats not opinion as you can see now with the empty servers, ls's, and them neededing to regroup with a new team and try to make it better.

Its very hard for me to understand why they would make a "mmorpg" that has so very little group party play aspects and seems to encourage a person to go it alone w/o a decent story.

Why make a online game like this? Its obviously this not what the majority of the fans wanted or we wouldnt be disscusing any of this right now.