Please remove gear advantages in PVP

[lordbones]

Boy am I glad you don't design shit in this game, but it seems they already have like minded people at the helm.

If you're going to make such a useless comment, please explain your thoughts. Your feelings mean shit to me.

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You all are playing an MMO, not an RTS...Not GW2 style gameplay, not WoW. If you don't play for progression what are you playing for? Why do people want all these new dungeons/ new PvP style matches...ie CTF/ KOTH...just for fun? No. People want new gear. They want to look better, be more powerful, and enjoy new content. Who the hell wants to play PvP for PvE/RP rewards? Sure, I'm not going to say new minions and mounts are a bad thing, but serious PvPers don't give a shit about those when they spend more time in the arena than they do anywhere else.

How boring would this PvP be if all people had to look forward to in terms of progression was more skill points? YES, the current Arena only system sucks. But how many people do you seriously expect to sprint to r30 for only vanity items? meh

[Swishytail]

I love when Shiyo acts like she cares about this game, when before 2.1 she threatened to quit literally every other
post she made. She did nothing but trash this game into the ground constantly. I think she actually DID quit for 2
or 3 weeks before 2.1 was released. What happens first day? Complaints.

I don't know why anyone takes Shiyo serious about anything, ever. Just another crybaby who will keep un-subbing
until she gets her way. Nothing to see here.

[x037x]

Look people, the current PVP system is nowhere near a balanced state, hell, it took blizzard 10 years to smooth it out and they are still trying to balance out PVP, it's a difficult task and even when updates happen, unexpected, unpredicted things happen which lead to nerfs and even more never ending changes, followed by more QQ. A week into this games PVP scene and so many people are just up in arms about losing. That's the thing, they are essentially crying about losing, they're not crying about being outgeard, they are not crying about being outskilled they are simply crying about losing, they don't want a really want a "fair" playing environment, they want to win, but they don't want to do what the game demands for them to do to win under the prescribed conditions. They want wins handed to them.

[mirth12]

I disagree with the OP. I feel like gear grind in an MMO is part of the reason I play them, both pve and pvp gear grinds. I like the idea of going hard and grinding out rank 30 before anyone else does equipping all the i90 and just farming people that have less time then me for a month or so.

Is this right? no, prolly not. But I'm also the kinda of person that gets a kick out of camping corpses, and ganking lowbies.. its fun to feel powerful in a game. I'm not ashamed to say it. I played gw2, it was fun, but it died out very quickly other then WvW the structured game was a flash in the pan imo, alot of the was because there wasn't a ton to look forward to. While successful pvp-centric mmo's have thrived with a geared based system. If you want to play skill based pvp play a moba or something imo, mmo pvp has always been about grinding gear and farming, which I personally and people i know are ok with.

[x037x]

I disagree with the OP. I feel like gear grind in an MMO is part of the reason I play them, both pve and pvp gear grinds. I like the idea of going hard and grinding out rank 30 before anyone else does equipping all the i90 and just farming people that have less time then me for a month or so.

Is this right? no, prolly not. But I'm also the kinda of person that gets a kick out of camping corpses, and ganking lowbies.. its fun to feel powerful in a game. I'm not ashamed to say it. I played gw2, it was fun, but it died out very quickly other then WvW the structured game was a flash in the pan imo, alot of the was because there wasn't a ton to look forward to. While successful pvp-centric mmo's have thrived with a geared based system. If you want to play skill based pvp play a moba or something imo, mmo pvp has always been about grinding gear and farming, which I personally and people i know are ok with.

I admire your honestly, prepare to be flamed.

[Jadi]

Please remove gear advantages in PVP. Losing a match due to someone having better gear than my team is not fun in the slightest. Having to be much better than my opponent because they're 30% stronger than me is not healthy for a competitive PVP environment.

Sometimes people see a problem and they come up incorrect solutions to that problem based on a poor evaluation of it. You problem isn't that people are over geared from you. The problem is your loosing a lot of your matches and you don't think that you should be paired with the opponents your getting. Adding in elo calculations to match making would solve this and give you opponents closer to your own skill (and gear) level and thus more exciting matches for everyone.

[Jyoeru]

Beaten plenty of relic teams in PVP. Not worried about this.

EDIT: using my level 41 market board-geared bard.

[Jyoeru]

Sometimes people see a problem and they come up incorrect solutions to that problem based on a poor evaluation of it. You problem isn't that people are over geared from you. The problem is your loosing a lot of your matches and you don't think that you should be paired with the opponents your getting. Adding in elo calculations to match making would solve this and give you opponents closer to your own skill (and gear) level and thus more exciting matches for everyone.

Add to it that later on would come the "incorporate win/loss percentages and match people based on their win/loss records." It will never end. Give them a cookie today, they'll sue you for the cookie store tomorrow.

[Imapooonu]

If someone points out an objective imbalance, why is that observation always labeled as "QQ"....I don't get that.

[Sinth]

Hey guise lets give everyone 1 HP and restrict all abilities so PvP becomes a game of who can right click on their opponents fastest. Then it would be fair. Right guise?