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  1. #941
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stalkster View Post
    2Questions:
    1: Fracture yes or no?
    2: Darksteel haub or Onion Armor?

    Doubt I'll be doing coil on drg anytime soon so acc is not a concern.
    1. No Fracture, the best rotation now is H IDC P TTT H TTT P IDC H TTT P TTT Repeat.
    2. Onion Armor by a mile. You pretty much always want the higher iLvl item, regardless of secondary stats, because the higher iLvl should almost always have higher main stat, in this case, STR. The only reason you'd take Darksteel would be if it were HQ AND you got more STR than onion through materia. Not sure if that's possible, I'm melding dumb.
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  2. #942
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    Sir Stalkster
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    Behemoth
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Well HQ caps Prim stats.
    Using the math on the op I get.
    Onion Armor(ignoring the Acc) Total: 28.066
    Darksteel Haub(18Det meld) total: 30.254
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  3. #943
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    Tarragon Lai
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    Fisher Lv 50
    If you're headed to coil, you may well need that accuracy. It isn't a stat than can always be overlooked. If it saves you a few misses that'll help your dps a lot.
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  4. #944
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    Elysia Mazda
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stalkster View Post
    Well HQ caps Prim stats.
    Using the math on the op I get.
    Onion Armor(ignoring the Acc) Total: 28.066
    Darksteel Haub(18Det meld) total: 30.254
    Well, you're ignoring the +ACC, lol. Technically, the Darksteel Haubergeon can be slightly better offensively, but not as much as you're estimating. If you want something more apples-to-apples, you'll have to meld at least 3 Heaven's Eye IV to get 27 (cap, can't get 30), and you sure as hell aren't melding 2 Savage Might IV (+12 DTR) on top of that -- you'd spend 5 million gil failing melds. Realistically, you'd probably meld 1 stat (crit's capped, so +6 DTR) and the rest will be HE4 + 3x HE3 to hit +27 accuracy. That would be -3 accuracy, -5 STR, -5 VIT, +2 SSPD, +6 DTR, and +27 CHR. Nevermind the ACC and VIT losses, your net DPS gain from that formula would be 5 - 5.932 = 0.932. Regardless, it's not going to be a wide swing one way or the other.
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  5. #945
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    Well my coil group the OT is a Drg main. We all ready have a Mnk main. So it's pretty safe to assume I wont be going Drg to coil, being Pld main.
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  6. #946
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    Jet Brooks
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stalkster View Post
    Well my coil group the OT is a Drg main. We all ready have a Mnk main. So it's pretty safe to assume I wont be going Drg to coil, being Pld main.
    DRG BiS has a ton of Myth, so maybe he'll be nice enough to give ya some Coil drops, you know, if you want them.
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  7. #947
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    Lunairetic Emx
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    As a general disclaimer to repeat from gamefaqs:

    The difference in static DPS between the "worst" i90 and "best/BiS" i90 sets will be like 5 DPS tops, or something (probably less than 5 DPS), as long as you're not overshooting ACC caps by 50.

    So don't bend over backwards for specific gear in X or Y slot.
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  8. #948
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    Pompey Dan
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasymodeX View Post
    Yeah I'm personally annoyed as well because I prefer the look of most of the Allagan gear (aside from the chest).

    I'm going to have to do some soul-searching to see whether I can justify the look (and cost) of all the Myth slots for like +1 DPS.

    Aesthetics versus marginal DPS. I CAN'T DECIDE*.

    *At least I can procrastinate on any decision until I actually, you know, see/get the Allagan spear, otherwise the point is moot.
    I'm still not convinced by the new BiS with so much SS, using your rotation with +96 SS and the changes to jumps means you going to be clipping the end of CT. CT now with my gear does like 49-52 per tick, clipping the last tick of CT every 30 seconds would mean a 1.63 dps loss no ?
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  9. #949
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    Augustus Stormborne
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    Quote Originally Posted by pompey_dan View Post
    I'm still not convinced by the new BiS with so much SS, using your rotation with +96 SS and the changes to jumps means you going to be clipping the end of CT. CT now with my gear does like 49-52 per tick, clipping the last tick of CT every 30 seconds would mean a 1.63 dps loss no ?
    why not simply add a filler?
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  10. #950
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    Quote Originally Posted by AugustusSB View Post
    why not simply add a filler?
    Fracture I guess, but my poor tp
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