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  1. #101
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    Duelle Urelle
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    Quote Originally Posted by MMONSTER View Post
    the ABSOLUTE most logical thing
    Making Bard useless in anything that is not large groups while making it unappealing to play (which means getting parties together would take infinitely longer) and making a job that does what Bard used to do is not logical.
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    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
    * Design ideas:
    Red Mage - COMPLETE (https://tinyurl.com/y6tsbnjh), Chemist - Second Pass (https://tinyurl.com/ssuog88), Thief - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/vdjpkoa), Rune Fencer - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/y3fomdp2)

  2. #102
    Player MMONSTER's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duelle View Post
    Making Bard useless in anything that is not large groups while making it unappealing to play (which means getting parties together would take infinitely longer) and making a job that does what Bard used to do is not logical.
    LOL, because no1 ever wanted Bards in ff11....
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  3. #103
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    Quote Originally Posted by MMONSTER View Post
    because no one ever wanted to play Bards in ff11.
    Fixed. There's a reason the term Princess Bard existed in FFXI, you know.
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    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
    * Design ideas:
    Red Mage - COMPLETE (https://tinyurl.com/y6tsbnjh), Chemist - Second Pass (https://tinyurl.com/ssuog88), Thief - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/vdjpkoa), Rune Fencer - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/y3fomdp2)

  4. #104
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    Selawyn Kludra
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    Arcanist Lv 70
    I remember having to go /anon almost fulltime on Bard in FFXI because of the /tell spam I got back in the day. They were virtually required in some content. *shudder* I wonder if it's still like that now...
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  5. #105
    Player MMONSTER's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duelle View Post
    Fixed. There's a reason the term Princess Bard existed in FFXI, you know.
    never heard the term, sorry
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  6. #106
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    Quote Originally Posted by MMONSTER View Post
    never heard the term, sorry
    A princess bard is someone who knew that BRD was an unpopular job and used their job's rarity for political leverage in linkshells because BRD was outright required for almost everything in the game. People like Rhindas took it well enough, but some did abuse the hell out of it and knew they could hold parties and alliances hostage, and did.

    Red Mages also ended up doing something similar, much to my own shame.
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    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
    * Design ideas:
    Red Mage - COMPLETE (https://tinyurl.com/y6tsbnjh), Chemist - Second Pass (https://tinyurl.com/ssuog88), Thief - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/vdjpkoa), Rune Fencer - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/y3fomdp2)

  7. #107
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    Zedine Zafir
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duelle View Post
    A princess bard is someone who knew that BRD was an unpopular job and used their job's rarity for political leverage in linkshells because BRD was outright required for almost everything in the game. People like Rhindas took it well enough, but some did abuse the hell out of it and knew they could hold parties and alliances hostage, and did.

    Red Mages also ended up doing something similar, much to my own shame.

    Must have been with horrible "friends" and linkshells. I played RDM full time and would fill in as PLD when they needed a better tank. Never had any issues I usually played what i wanted, Whether it was DRK SAM or PLD i only went RDM when needed even though they needed a good RDM a lot I was always allowed to go what I pleased. But i usually went what was needed.
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  8. #108
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    Geovana Fletcher
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    Mateus
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    I laugh at anyone who says BRDs are support and not dps in 2.0. 1.23 BRDs I will admit were more support than dps and were despised and never really sought after for content.
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