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  1. #131
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peregrine View Post
    You have no name.
    I've killed bots with more achievement than you have in XIV.
    Do your job. Stop whining that everyone should make your job easier for you.

    RMT and cheats prey on the indulgences of a limp society to tolerate obvious threats to the integrity of the game because HOW CAN ANYONE BE SURE?!?

    Ban them all. You will catch no legitimate player in the fire. It's that bad.
    I think his/her point was that WE as players can not be sure. Furthermore, persecution of any player by another player should not be tolerated. This is why they also have a harassment policy. The STF and Dev team members will be the judges of who is or is not in the wrong. Vahzl calmed down and made his/her point so there is no reason to give chase and go on the offensive.

    I have seen over zealous GMs before in other MMOs. Legitimate players DO get caught in the crossfire of them blindly wielding the ban hammer, mostly because of wild accusations, doctored pictures and altered text chats that are taken out of context. Step back a bit and realize that you, under the right circumstances, could also be victimized by a false accusation. Wouldn't you want a thorough investigation then? Perhaps you would like the STF to jump to conclusions solely based on the evidence provided by someone else without first allowing you to explain your actions?

    It is ok to be a "White Knight" and want to uphold the integrity of the game but lets not become doomsayers and crusaders. Let's at least let the STF continue their work and see what comes of it before we burn anyone or chop off their heads. Most of all, I think we all need to step back and realize that our role is simply to observe and report, not to condemn and execute. We do not wield the power to ban, no matter how rabid we become in our convictions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldaena View Post
    It's okay. I know my evidence of your antagonism is overwhelming. Sorry, for that. Take care and keep reporting bots if you see them. ^-^
    Not at all, to be honest it was the wall of absolute moronicy in this thread that gives me the feeling of a horde of mindless zombies dribbling up my front door. It is sad that you are of such a small mind to not see the bigger picture, and that you also think you are in the right, which is why I have now given up trying to explain things to you. Sadly, it seems you cannot fix the problems you have
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mortikhan View Post
    I think his/her point was that WE as players can not be sure. Furthermore, persecution of any player by another player should not be tolerated. This is why they also have a harassment policy. The STF and Dev team members will be the judges of who is or is not in the wrong. Vahzl calmed down and made his/her point so there is no reason to give chase and go on the offensive.

    I have seen over zealous GMs before in other MMOs. Legitimate players DO get caught in the crossfire of them blindly wielding the ban hammer, mostly because of wild accusations, doctored pictures and altered text chats that are taken out of context. Step back a bit and realize that you, under the right circumstances, could also be victimized by a false accusation. Wouldn't you want a thorough investigation then? Perhaps you would like the STF to jump to conclusions solely based on the evidence provided by someone else without first allowing you to explain your actions?

    It is ok to be a "White Knight" and want to uphold the integrity of the game but lets not become doomsayers and crusaders. Let's at least let the STF continue their work and see what comes of it before we burn anyone or chop off their heads. Most of all, I think we all need to step back and realize that our role is simply to observe and report, not to condemn and execute. We do not wield the power to ban, no matter how rabid we become in our convictions.
    You can Europe it up all you want as Nazi forces are amassing and taking over things that aren't yours.
    There is a problem. They will get to you eventually, so stop standing around doing nothing.
    Yes, you do know. You are sure. You just don't want to act.

    Players like you all are why the STF is allowed to sit on its ass for a year and do nothing while the game turns into a legitimacy joke.

    If you got up off your ass and did what's right, the STF would have stung this major threat to the game 4 months ago. Battlecrafters would be getting nice salaries from shards. There wouldn't be a hundred rank 50 carpenters botspamming everything in the economy.

    You enabled all these cheaters to get their feet in the door just as much as Square Enix did. Square Enix does what you tell them to. Because you didn't tell them to do the right thing, and demand it, they didn't do it.

    Now the game's a joke. Crafting is a joke. The economy is a joke. It's all because too many people generate too many assets without even being there.

    It's your fault, partly. You say wait. You say hold on.

    No. This should have been napalmed 4 months ago with the removal of thousands of accounts and tens of thousands of characters, with the removal of hundreds of billions of gil.

    When everyone else is incompetent, I'm the only thing that's left. So I'll kill them when I see them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peregrine View Post
    You can Europe it up all you want as Nazi forces are amassing and taking over things that aren't yours.
    There is a problem. They will get to you eventually, so stop standing around doing nothing.
    Yes, you do know. You are sure. You just don't want to act.

    Players like you all are why the STF is allowed to sit on its ass for a year and do nothing while the game turns into a legitimacy joke.

    If you got up off your ass and did what's right, the STF would have stung this major threat to the game 4 months ago. Battlecrafters would be getting nice salaries from shards. There wouldn't be a hundred rank 50 carpenters botspamming everything in the economy.

    You enabled all these cheaters to get their feet in the door just as much as Square Enix did. Square Enix does what you tell them to. Because you didn't tell them to do the right thing, and demand it, they didn't do it.

    Now the game's a joke. Crafting is a joke. The economy is a joke. It's all because too many people generate too many assets without even being there.

    It's your fault, partly. You say wait. You say hold on.

    No. This should have been napalmed 4 months ago with the removal of thousands of accounts and tens of thousands of characters, with the removal of hundreds of billions of gil.

    When everyone else is incompetent, I'm the only thing that's left. So I'll kill them when I see them.
    Just gonna say I called this ridiculous reaction.
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    You start banning indiscriminately and the game will die faster than the bots can kill it. No one will play in a game where the next day your character is gone with no real explanation why. FFXI always had GM's there testing if players were botting and if they were found guilty they were suspended pending a STF investigation to see if they were RMT's. You knew what you did and why you were suspended in FFXI (most of the time).

    I don't think anyone is disputing the obvious botters like in the video (at least I hope not), but the reason they aren't banning isn't because of the players. Fairly sure most of the obvious ones have been reported multiple times by now, so where does the fault lie? With SE. The entire game was designed from the gound up to combat RMT and botting. I'm pretty sure that was always on the forefront of their minds. They just don't care right now because the game has been doing so poorly. Why dedicate an entire department of GM's when you're already suffering a massive loss? To police the 5,000 players that are left? They don't want to lose more money.
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    Where the horsebirds at?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firon View Post
    I could care less about bots not hurting me in any type of way
    same who cares sorry dude the time you are spending chasing this "bot" around you could be playing the boring game... pve based game let me know when he bots a mob to get a item to pk you with @.@;

    Also peregrine you got issues and 1300+ post wow man lol just wow
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    All this crying about as bots is about as useless as people suggesting something good for the game or a troll being angry why he hates the game.

    In the end nothing happens. SE still wont ban until they made their munies.
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    I am willing to place bets on how long it will be before Peregrine gets banned. I have seen alot less result in the same. This guy is actually starting to concern me a little. People take these games a little too seriously, and he has begun to make wild threats and accusations towards anyone that says anything against him.

    Think we might need a community rep in here to give the little man a shot of silencing powder, as he seems to have blown more than a gasket.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahzl View Post
    I am willing to place bets on how long it will be before Peregrine gets banned. I have seen alot less result in the same. This guy is actually starting to concern me a little. People take these games a little too seriously, and he has begun to make wild threats and accusations towards anyone that says anything against him.

    Think we might need a community rep in here to give the little man a shot of silencing powder, as he seems to have blown more than a gasket.
    Silencing Powder, is a reagent and cannot be used for combat.

    It can also be used to make a Silencing Potion.
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  11. #140
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joeking View Post
    Silencing Powder, is a reagent and cannot be used for combat.

    It can also be used to make a Silencing Potion.
    Better rev up those bots fellas because we're gonna need one heck of a lot of silencing potion.
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