Every PVP MMO normalizes gear in PVP

[Shiyo]

Bad idea, it wouldn't give people a reason to PvP if they couldn't earn better PvP gear.

Completely wrong.
Arena participation has greatly deceased since the mid CAT era - season 10, where gear became the main deciding factor in winning arenas. It has only since then gotten worse, thus the change to eliminating gear from PVP entirely and changing it to preset gear.

Active 3v3 teams

• Season 3 29796
• Season 4 16288
• Season 5 6983
• Season 6 7460
• Season 7 7219
• Season 8 9091
• Season 9 8715
• Season 10 4487
• Season 11 2767

http://www.arenajunkies.com/tools/ti...ator/?season=3

PVP gear existed the entire time, yet the numbers kept decreasing and decreasing because gear progression does not make people PVP. The complete opposite is true - the bigger the gap in gear tiers, the less interested people become in PVP.

Again - if the idea is so bad, why is the most successful MMO in the world for 10 years and still going doing it? Why were so many players so happy and joyed when it was announced? The reason is simple: it's not a bad idea, it's what anyone who cares about any type of balanced, fun, competitive PVP wants. The most popular forum for all the highest rated players of WOW arenas, arena junkies, have asked for pre-set gear for over 5 years now. There are private WOW servers with preset gear because it's what people want.

Where is your factual data to back up your claim, Zumi?

Vanity items, mounts, cosmetics, pets, hair styles, crafting mats, titles, all these things can come from PVP. Gear is not the only solution to everything.

How about there be two modes, one that let's you use any gear and has gear progression, and another type that's preset gear and purely competitive with only cosmetic rewards, titles, mounts, pets, etc?