PVP Balances Required

[Fukujin]

morale is useless ilvl90 gear > morale. please dont buy morale gear trust me.

Lol that's funny when my group see's people with out pvp gear on its an automatic GG
The damage is wayyyy to much, Morale is definitely useful, crafted pvp plus relic for all classes but healers.
I70 for healers and that's it

[Velhart]

PvP in every MMO I have played has always been an endless series of changes and tweaks that always lead to some advantage/disadvantage of classes. It is just the nature of the beast. Most imbalance you will see in PvP will always be when it first launches, increase levels, or add a new class to the mix.

I haven't PvP'ed in the game much yet, so can't give a good description of what is good and what is bad. For what I did do, I went in as my DRG and I would say one thing that bothered me a lot was really bad animation lock when trying to run towards an opponent while trying to use my ability. I think something like that does need to be adjusted. I am sure there is something in each class that has some hindrance to deal with that a tweak from the Dev's could fix.

Just give it time to settle. This is common in MMO's.

[Fukujin]

I feel like everythings balanced, My groups destroyed double blm, double smn etc etc
Only match we ever lost without obvious fuckups was a match that ended our 51 win streak
15min epic match with a drg and mnk, The second time they LB'd did us in. Got the healer lol
Things can be tweaked but honestly guys its pvp abilitys then playerskill. After that communication and teamwork
Nothing is OP all of it has a counter. Just play and figure it out
My group is double blm btw

That being said, PVP ranking please and a ready up button for PVP. Dat 2min timer sucks
Morale to govern heals... lets see whatelse..hmmm can't think of anything right now but I'm sure ill think of something ill come back later

[Mitski]

What's with these people saying sleep is not op?

Sleep really isn't much of an issue in duty finder matches right now because the matches are over so quickly. Purify, Fetter Ward, etc. let you push through the first wave of sleep DR and by the time sleep resets back to 30 seconds the game is over (or snowballing too fast to matter).

In the higher ranked pre-made games where people have some gear and coordination, the games last longer, and at that point sleep can be a problem. With proper materia it might be balanced, but no one knows yet. Ultimately, a fully geared player that melded to counter cc (i.e. healer) should suffer max duration of 12-15 seconds from sleep. If it's still more than 20 seconds with full gear, I think it will require adjusting.

Overall, it's not as bad as people think, and it's too early to ask for nerfs.

*SNIP*

As I said, I think it's too early for people to ask for nerfs, and everything could be balanced at max rank. Regardless, your logic is terrible:

"I had a 51 game win streak with double BLM, so everything must be balanced"

really? -.-;;

[Edgley]

You NEED the Break CC PvP Action. It's a requirement in every PvP setting in every game, ever.

[Zellata]

1. Sleep is overpowered, specially comboed with swiftcast. It needs nerf. 30 sec is crazy. It should be just 5 seconds

Nope, not OP at all even in the lower ranks. No changes needed imho.

2. Pvp lobby wait time is 2 minutes, this should be set to 30 seconds only.

Agreed.

3. Morale - can somebody explain this clearly? (does this add additional damage to people with zero morale resistance as well?) i90 Gear > i70 PVP gear?

i55 PvP gear > i90 PvE gear for PvP.

4. Reset PVP skill item are very expensive.

Not sure if it's supposed to be cheaper, to be honest.

5. Wolf Mark Earned needs to be increased.

Agreed.

[Cynric]

i55 pvp gear hqd is better than darklight and i70 craft armor but, i90 pve armor beats out the i55 pvp gear, i70 pvp gear beats out i90 pve gear. Lots more bulky and a bit more damage. Also sleep cc is indeed op in ranks 1 to 3 before purify your healer has to be super careful or its instant death. The pvp skill reset should be way cheaper unless at rank 30 you get like 100 marks a win I could see them increasing marks per win.

Nowhere near enough ap to every skill and enhance it. 1 ap per pvp rank feels very slow progression wise, I see a skill I need or want, without x skilll I have to work harder but to get x skill in the higher ranks (+10) it takes many many matches to get to that point this coupled with the reset price is odd.

[Ranel]

What's with these people saying sleep is not op?

Because they are the one using these tactics. PVP should be balanced from starting rank to top tier rank. If not fixed, we will mostly see two BLM or two SMN.

[Phai]

But but but, u Lancers have the ability nerf and crying storm, u even know how op that is?

[Ranel]

But but but, u Lancers have the ability nerf and crying storm, u even know how op that is?

How am I suppose to get that skill early when everyone is required to get Purify, Fetter Ward to Max. Reset is not an option early, earning skills takes too many levels.