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    Ranel's Avatar
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    Ranel Highwind
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    PVP Balances Required

    1. Sleep is overpowered, specially comboed with swiftcast. It needs nerf. 30 sec is crazy. It should be just 5 seconds

    2. Pvp lobby wait time is 2 minutes, this should be set to 30 seconds only.

    3. Morale - can somebody explain this clearly? (does this add additional damage to people with zero morale resistance as well?) i90 Gear > i70 PVP gear?

    4. Reset PVP skill item are very expensive.

    5. Wolf Mark Earned needs to be increased.

    Feel free to add any balance changes in PVP in your mind.
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    Richter Fact
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    Sleep is overpowered in the lower tiers, yeah. As soon as people get Purify, Fetter Wards, Sleep Resist materia and such, it doesn't do much. A good group with the right gear trivializes Sleep and demolishes teams that rely on it.

    I agree on everything else. Wolf Mark might need a little tweak. Wait timer, I'm not sure. 2 minutes is too much for premades but I don't know for randoms.
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    Last edited by Addicted; 12-19-2013 at 01:52 PM.

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    Player LongNu's Avatar
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    Sleep isn't nearly half as overpowered as you think. SMN on the other hand...
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    Yeah.. SMN are overpowered specially if there are two SMN. Basically SMN> Sleep> Everything Else!!!
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    Nenin Poponsand
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    SMN really shouldn't have access to a raise.

    Being breathed on shouldn't instantly cancel any cast. Spell pushback is fine. Having a hardcasted 4s Flare stopped at 3.95s when a Bard unintentionally auto-attacks you as he tabs through targets is just silly.
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    Shiyo Kozuki
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranel View Post
    1. Sleep is overpowered, specially comboed with swiftcast. It needs nerf. 30 sec is crazy. It should be just 5 seconds

    2. Pvp lobby wait time is 2 minutes, this should be set to 30 seconds only.

    3. Morale - can somebody explain this clearly? (does this add additional damage to people with zero morale resistance as well?) i90 Gear > i70 PVP gear?

    4. Reset PVP skill item are very expensive.

    5. Wolf Mark Earned needs to be increased.

    Feel free to add any balance changes in PVP in your mind.
    Sleep is fine, purify completely counters swiftcast.

    Lobby wait time is too long, should be 1 minute.

    Morale needs to be explained.

    Resetting your skills should be free.

    Wolf marks are fine.

    I have a thread talking about PVP issues here:
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...26#post1694726
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    Ahnya Warthain
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    Phoenix
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    Lancer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Shiyo View Post
    Sleep is fine, purify completely counters swiftcast.

    Lobby wait time is too long, should be 1 minute.

    Morale needs to be explained.

    Resetting your skills should be free.

    Wolf marks are fine.

    I have a thread talking about PVP issues here:
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...26#post1694726
    you forget about the part where ranged classes can just kite you with sprint and dps all they want or use their abilities with no penalty whatsoever, while melee is trying to catch them up either on normal run speed, or without tp, in both cases is a lost cause... either melee should keep their tp when sprinting or magic classes lose their MP when they use it, equal footing for everyone.
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    Player Shiyo's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Warthain View Post
    you forget about the part where ranged classes can just kite you with sprint and dps all they want or use their abilities with no penalty whatsoever, while melee is trying to catch them up either on normal run speed, or without tp, in both cases is a lost cause... either melee should keep their tp when sprinting or magic classes lose their MP when they use it, equal footing for everyone.
    Learn how to use invigorate, regain feathers, and icarus wings. Also do you honestly expect mages to have ZERO ways to gain distance? They can't cast with people on them outside of a 5 minute cooldown and 30 second cooldown that lasts for 1 spell, should they just go afk when a match begins then?
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    Hyperion
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    1. Sleep is fine as is. Don't go into PvP with PvE gear expecting to pawn n00bz

    2. The 2 minute wait time is fine. It gives people using DF time to strategize. Though maybe they could cut it down to 1 min for premade parties

    3. From what I was told, HQ ilvl 55 PvP gear > PvE ilvl 90 gear by a little bit. The ilvl 70 PvP stuff makes a big difference compared to the ilvl 90 gear. Morale increases your defense against other players.

    4. I agree. It discourages playing with multiple jobs

    4. Wolf mark gain is fine, imo. PvP gear should take a while to get since there isn't much PvP content at the moment.
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    Longnu Era
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    Zalera
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    Quote Originally Posted by KamikazeMan View Post
    3. From what I was told, HQ ilvl 55 PvP gear > PvE ilvl 90 gear by a little bit. The ilvl 70 PvP stuff makes a big difference compared to the ilvl 90 gear. Morale increases your defense against other players.
    i90 PvE gear > i55 PvP gear in offense and defense due to higher health pools with flat out better damage
    i70 PvP gear > i90 PvE gear in most slots
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