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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMarmax View Post
    The unskilled noob is at 44-7 the first day of patch and probably been playing MMOs before you were even born, but thats irrelevant and you Sir are rude.

    I am just trying to have a discussion and i am not crying, so if any "skilled" and "Pro" players out there can explain how can BLM be usefull when Sleep dosnt affect the fight anymore, i would appriciate that.
    Not that informed on this so i ask. Exactly how sleep will stop to be useful?

    I know you can get a chance of resisting, reduce duration and get a skill with CD to get it off once
    This will make sleep managable and not auto-win but i wouldn't call it useless (you can still cast it multiple times right?)
    I'm missing something like full resistence or 70% chance of resist?

    Anyway letargy blizzard blizzard 2 freeze surecast swiftcast aetherial manipulation sprint are all good ways to deal with melee opponents in my opinion

    don't forget our personal stonskins that will make a cast go in
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    Quote Originally Posted by LetBloodline View Post
    Not that informed on this so i ask. Exactly how sleep will stop to be useful?

    I know you can get a chance of resisting, reduce duration and get a skill with CD to get it off once
    This will make sleep managable and not auto-win but i wouldn't call it useless (you can still cast it multiple times right?)
    I'm missing something like full resistence or 70% chance of resist?

    Anyway letargy blizzard blizzard 2 freeze surecast swiftcast aetherial manipulation sprint are all good ways to deal with melee opponents in my opinion

    don't forget our personal stonskins that will make a cast go in
    Pots,Healer and skill. Thats 3 times and sleep will be irrelevant IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMarmax View Post
    Pots,Healer and skill. Thats 3 times and sleep will be irrelevant IMO.
    pots remove from party member, not yourself if you are sleeped

    Healer is the one you want to sleep first anyway

    Plus now it's auto-win and that's just cheap

    It's good that there are ways to not let you get an easy autowin while we have a load of other skills that can be useful
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    Quote Originally Posted by LetBloodline View Post
    pots remove from party member, not yourself if you are sleeped

    Healer is the one you want to sleep first anyway

    Plus now it's auto-win and that's just cheap

    It's good that there are ways to not let you get an easy autowin while we have a load of other skills that can be useful
    Yeah pots remove for party members,that make it easier to avoid sleep for x player.
    You sleep healer,he uses the pvp skill,u sleep again, someone pots it for him.
    I completly agree its so cheap now and not that fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LetBloodline View Post
    Anyway letargy blizzard blizzard 2 freeze surecast swiftcast aetherial manipulation sprint are all good ways to deal with melee opponents in my opinion

    don't forget our personal stonskins that will make a cast go in
    I agree u can still manage to get away from a melee but imagine having a monk on u all the time, you wont be able to do the damage BLM supposed to do, i can understand if they made getting hit will make the casting time last longer but completly interupt it, thats something new.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMarmax View Post
    I agree u can still manage to get away from a melee but imagine having a monk on u all the time, you wont be able to do the damage BLM supposed to do, i can understand if they made getting hit will make the casting time last longer but completly interupt it, thats something new.
    if i use manawall (or ward, don't remember wich one) and cast bilzzard 2 i can get free of monk easily
    if i run with sprint monk won't be able to do his rotation as well (at worst i can skyte)
    if i run and letargy monk won't be able to do his rotation as well (at worst i can skyte)
    if i aetherial manipulation to a far away party member i can freeze/slow/sleep monk
    if i surecast i can freeze/slow/sleep monk
    if i swiftcast i can freeze/slow/sleep monk

    PvP won't be about cycle and DPS, it will be about CC

    we'll have stunners but we are probabily the best crowd control class

    We'll need to use all the skills wisely and make 100% out of CD
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    Quote Originally Posted by LetBloodline View Post
    if i use manawall (or ward, don't remember wich one) and cast bilzzard 2 i can get free of monk easily
    if i run with sprint monk won't be able to do his rotation as well (at worst i can skyte)
    if i run and letargy monk won't be able to do his rotation as well (at worst i can skyte)
    if i aetherial manipulation to a far away party member i can freeze/slow/sleep monk
    if i surecast i can freeze/slow/sleep monk
    if i swiftcast i can freeze/slow/sleep monk

    PvP won't be about cycle and DPS, it will be about CC
    We can get away/free easily, we agree on that
    Monk or w/e melee class dosnt need to do a rotation to make BLM do zero damage.
    Thats a good idea, i dont think sleep will do much but freeze/slow/heavy, we will see if they help when ppls get some resistance from the pvp materia.

    Yes if we can actually CC later on, i already agree now its a faceroll, i honestly agree and dislike it but it is nice to do some damage also.
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