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    BLM useless in PvP

    Well at least when players learn how to PvP and avoid sleep, THAT wil make BLM useless and dosnt affect the outcome of a fight as a class and as a player.
    Honestly, they cant dps if they have a half melee class on them.
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    You can't play it solo, but i'm quite positive that good BLM and good party members will be able to win
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    Yeah but there is a solo MM, therefore we are supposed to play solo. Also not everyone have friends to queue with anyways.
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    u are soo unskilled man
    dont cry if u are noob
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    You really shouldn't try and balance constructed PvP around non-constructed PvP. It's a bad idea.

    Beyond that, mages are still strong. If a melee's on you, you can swiftcast sleep, and sprint away by the time he cleanses it, then surecast it on him again. This is also assuming you don't have someone helping you.

    The only difference is once people get ways to handle sleep, BLMs will be strong but fair, instead of "LOLOLOL DOUBLE BLM SLEEP TEAMS GO."
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMarmax View Post
    Yeah but there is a solo MM, therefore we are supposed to play solo. Also not everyone have friends to queue with anyways.
    Find LS/FC that will do pvp and create your party or join in one

    In the ragnarok section someone started a topic for this. Do the same
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    Quote Originally Posted by hirolucky View Post
    u are soo unskilled man
    dont cry if u are noob
    The unskilled noob is at 44-7 the first day of patch and probably been playing MMOs before you were even born, but thats irrelevant and you Sir are rude.

    I am just trying to have a discussion and i am not crying, so if any "skilled" and "Pro" players out there can explain how can BLM be usefull when Sleep dosnt affect the fight anymore, i would appriciate that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMarmax View Post
    The unskilled noob is at 44-7 the first day of patch and probably been playing MMOs before you were even born, but thats irrelevant and you Sir are rude.

    I am just trying to have a discussion and i am not crying, so if any "skilled" and "Pro" players out there can explain how can BLM be usefull when Sleep dosnt affect the fight anymore, i would appriciate that.
    Not that informed on this so i ask. Exactly how sleep will stop to be useful?

    I know you can get a chance of resisting, reduce duration and get a skill with CD to get it off once
    This will make sleep managable and not auto-win but i wouldn't call it useless (you can still cast it multiple times right?)
    I'm missing something like full resistence or 70% chance of resist?

    Anyway letargy blizzard blizzard 2 freeze surecast swiftcast aetherial manipulation sprint are all good ways to deal with melee opponents in my opinion

    don't forget our personal stonskins that will make a cast go in
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eissels View Post
    Beyond that, mages are still strong. If a melee's on you, you can swiftcast sleep, and sprint away by the time he cleanses it, then surecast it on him again. This is also assuming you don't have someone helping you.
    I agree with you there but thats now when u actually can sleep but after players get the pvp skill cleanse(or w/e the name is) and healer get a better reactions time to handle the sleeps, and players actually pots it too, thats what i am actually concerned about. And after you sleep a target 3 times and he get away with it,u cant sleep him anymore or the duration will be so short u will notice nothing.
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    Last edited by TheMarmax; 12-19-2013 at 02:18 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LetBloodline View Post
    Not that informed on this so i ask. Exactly how sleep will stop to be useful?

    I know you can get a chance of resisting, reduce duration and get a skill with CD to get it off once
    This will make sleep managable and not auto-win but i wouldn't call it useless (you can still cast it multiple times right?)
    I'm missing something like full resistence or 70% chance of resist?

    Anyway letargy blizzard blizzard 2 freeze surecast swiftcast aetherial manipulation sprint are all good ways to deal with melee opponents in my opinion

    don't forget our personal stonskins that will make a cast go in
    Pots,Healer and skill. Thats 3 times and sleep will be irrelevant IMO.
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