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    Quote Originally Posted by Gamex View Post
    who are you talking to?
    Nofacekiller, hit the wrong button :P
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    I am still very steamed up about these damn nerfs, and lets not be pretty about it and try to sugar coat it ok, if it takes complex math and a paragraph explanation to get across some off the wall reason why it is a buff then it's all smoke and mirrors. Fact is both healers the BEST balanced class in the game. Thank you S.E. team for clearly breaking the best Zen you had accomplished. This choice is truly worthy of 1.0 mentality.
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    WHITE MAGE is Final Fantasy's poster child healer. Anything else is nice, but clear FF tradition we are the go to when in trouble class...Did you see a bunch of Fighter, MNK, BLM, RDM parties in FF1??? Nope you needed that trusty Red and White. However the effing fairy gets to out cure me??? Our Mana management is the hardest of the mage classes as it is and now our go to spell is our costliest?? WTF? You know what?, I am sticking to SMN for now which thank you for only raping me a little there at least you fixed my bane, talk to the career WHMs after you fix what you done gone brokedipated, you have dishonored a legacy forged through what is the history of the most influential RPG series in the ever. WHMs everywhere are crying, Garnet is not pleased /no
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amaret View Post
    If a SCH can solo heal up the group, a WHM can do it even better. But yea, the Regen is the problem...
    Pls don't even think about re-rolling SCH before you played your whm a little bit more. Your Achievement tell me, that you just done the class quest on 24.11.2013. So you aren't even playing a month a WHM.
    So i'm 100% sure, you don't know how to heal trough harder content.
    When you can't attack the argument, you can always attack the credentials of the person offering it.

    rofl
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nofacekiller View Post
    When you can't attack the argument, you can always attack the credentials of the person offering it.

    rofl
    Because your "arguments" are completely wrong and you will notice it by yourself when you start healing in coil.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nofacekiller View Post
    Most boss mechanics rely on burst damage that requires you to be at full hp before the mechanic comes around again (like tumults).
    Tell me which boss mechanics rely on "burst damage" beside Primals? Which need to have a topped up group very fast. And you still can solo heal this so called "Burst Damage". (When a SCH with a 150 potency (with shield) AoE can do it, a WHM with a 300 potency or 150 + 50 potency regen over 30 sec can do it too without problems.)
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    Last edited by Amaret; 12-17-2013 at 01:25 PM.

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    Why do you keep ignoring Eos?


    I already have started healing in Coil. You just can't help yourself. I don't know why you feel so compelled to attack my credentials...in possibly the most ignorant way. Date my WHM achievement was completed? Really? Sorry it doesn't take everyone 3 months to hit 50 and start raiding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nazzo View Post
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    I have to agree with everything said above, and I don't see any real buffs here aside from Cure III.

    If Overcure is to be effective for "big, expected" damage, while awarding a mana reduction (which would be pointless if you had to cast a single Cure II more in order to get that reduction), it needs to not work as pure RNG, either normalized, so that it'll go off both approximately every 3 hits and once per minute (proc rate dropping with procs and regenerating with time and perhaps number of casts), or an entirely different mechanic, or at the absolute least it needs its buff duration increased so that no procs go to waste.

    The new Overcure only seems to ease up flexible, non-intensive healing of a stacked ranged group, which is itself often impossible. But why use that over 1050 total potency Regen at about the same cost across 4 targets if the healer doesn't have to keep everyone topped off and the damage doesn't come in (party-wide or split-AoE) bursts...

    I wouldn't mind seeing Med II's initial heal reduced, mana cost reduced, and the regen extended to 20 or at most 25 seconds, such as to be used for a pre-heal, the first tick of which would go off alongside a Medica I, but I don't see any use for the full initial value and such a weak tick.
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    Last edited by Shurrikhan; 12-17-2013 at 01:45 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amaret View Post
    Tell me which boss mechanics rely on "burst damage" beside Primals? Which need to have a topped up group very fast. And you still can solo heal this so called "Burst Damage". (When a SCH with a 150 potency (with shield) AoE can do it, a WHM with a 300 potency or 150 + 50 potency regen over 30 sec can do it too without problems.)
    eh?
    ADS's laser?
    even a slipped out High Voltage?
    T4 mobs pull each phrase before OT successfully grab them?
    enrage?
    conflag?
    even fireball?

    idk, maybe none of them and i always misused MedicaII in wrong situation
    btw, SCH has Eos and she always has Whispering Dawn at disposal, unless not steady
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nofacekiller View Post
    Why do you keep ignoring Eos?


    I already have started healing in Coil. You just can't help yourself. I don't know why you feel so compelled to attack my credentials...in possibly the most ignorant way. Date my WHM achievement was completed? Really? Sorry it doesn't take everyone 3 months to hit 50 and start raiding.
    Because i still prefer Selene over Eos . This AoE heal was never needed and still isn't (yet, for me). And you still didn't answered my question. And i attack your "credentials" because you are one of this guys which is rerolling his class because they think they are "better"(OP!!111!11!) without knowing anything about SCH, and suck at the end with it. (See at the SCH bashing at the start of ffxiv 2.0).

    Quote Originally Posted by Bellybell View Post
    eh?
    ADS's laser?
    even a slipped out High Voltage?
    T4 mobs pull each phrase before OT successfully grab them?
    enrage?
    conflag?
    even fireball?

    idk, maybe none of them and i always misused MedicaII in wrong situation
    btw, SCH has Eos and she always has Whispering Dawn at disposal, unless not steady
    ADS laser? rly? your team shouldn't be hit by it and if it happens only 1~2 players. No need for a Medica 2 here.
    High Voltage, can happen. A medica will help but there is no -extrem- need for your team being topped up asap.
    T4 Mobs, your OT does something wrong or your dd's goes to fast for the adds. And srsly, using Medica 2 in t4 can be a fast selfkill. (Just timed it wrong, now its much harder with 30 sec thats true)
    While enrage you should spam medica 1 and not 2.
    Fireball, depends on tactic we only need to heal 1. Throwing a Medica 2 for this is wasted mana.
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    Last edited by Amaret; 12-17-2013 at 01:56 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ceiimq View Post
    Apparently Yoshi considers that the changes to WHM are a buff.
    My reaction to this.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cb4R-FvEKgM
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