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  1. #161
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    Quote Originally Posted by Faelandaea View Post
    . . . the only challenge to any market other than trending, and even that is not a challenge, is dealing with a difficult customer . . . oh wait . . . we don't have to do that in this game

    Matsume, I did agree with some points you have made through this thread, but I kind of have to stand with others that sitting there playing with numbers is not exactly a challenge. Getting a team of 24 to work together in Crystal Tower . . . THAT is going to be a challenge. Anyone who is even vaguely familiar with retail know far better than to think that doing the same thing in an MMO is anything but being casual and not really participating in content.
    Hmm..

    You work in retail, and you don't find marketing to be challenging. Why should you? You do work in retail after all... Biased opinion? As for dealing with difficult customers, aren't ALL the players inthis game DIFFICULT CUSTOMERS? And I have to deal with this bullshit all day.

    Again, dude, I'm over the semantic battle over the challenge of earning gil, or getting 24 ppl together for crystal tower. I honestly don't care. I think you made a slight jab at calling me casual and 'not participating in content'? I don't even need any gear from CT for your info. I have all i90 allagan/AF+1 BiS on my whm except for the head, earrings, and bracelets (which i have enough myth tomes to buy). I have been one shotting turns 1-4 for two months. So believe me, I've participated in my fair share of content. Maybe even, a wider selection of content than you?

    Oh, I never claimed to be high and mighyt, nor do i pretend to be a badass that works at wall street. I don't need your respect either, you obviously don't believe what I have to say despite not having a reason to call me a liar. You say my credibility has been lost because I ventured to speculate that I was the best geared gatherer on my server for a few weeks. Well, it was my honest opinion based on me examining every other gatherer I came across while farming unspoiled resource nodes for hours on end. Believe me, I got a good look at the majority of the early gatherers and I rarely saw one with as much materia in their gear as I had. But look at you, so quick to discredit me and call me a liar because I shared an honest opinion.

    So you think I'm a troll because my opinion isn't "official". Okay, well to me, someone looking for an "official source" to justify an opinionated claim over a video game is just as much of a troll as trying to defend the semantic challenge of earning gil on that same game. Now, you can think that I'm "into myself" but since when has using one self as an example of what others can accomplish considered trolling?

    Look man, all I'm saying is: I've earned XX amount of gil since Early Access, and you could have to. If I have enough to buy a house, then you could have to. Everything else is meaningless. If you don't like the price of the house don't pay for it. If everyone feels like you, the prices will drop. That's all.
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    Last edited by Matsume; 12-17-2013 at 08:02 AM.

  2. #162
    Player Bizniztyme's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Faelandaea View Post
    Take it from someone who works retail in real life . . . the only challenge to any market other than trending, and even that is not a challenge, is dealing with a difficult customer . . . oh wait . . . we don't have to do that in this game
    What? Tell that to all the failed businesses, broke stock brokers, hedge funds, etc etc....I hope you're kidding?
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    no lifers with no jobs will enjoy all this gil farming crap.
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  4. #164
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tridus1x View Post

    Basically anyone with a elementary level of understanding, can see that speculation doesn't not equal fact. Then again, I can see reading comprehension isn't your forte.
    This is so ironic i have nothing left to say to you.

    Okay wait, I can't help myself;

    "AN elementary level of understanding" remember "AN" before vowels, not "A" for example: you are AN idiot (correct) you are A idiot (incorrect)

    "Speculation does NOT equal fact" rather than "DOESN'T NOT" which would be considered a "double negative" and ironically makes you out to say that "speculation does equal fact"

    Then again, I can see that reading comprehension isn't your forte? Kid, you shouldn't use borrowed words from other languages when you are incapable of mastering your own.
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    Last edited by Matsume; 12-17-2013 at 08:15 AM.

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    stop whining people, you are behaving like small brats.
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  6. #166
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kinseykinz View Post
    Soo... the BIG question is: Are you going to spend that money King Midus? Do you think it's worth all the work you've done in gathering your fortune to put it down on a premium 'Small Lot' As you said, you can't personally afford another, larger lot. Do you mind putting in a large sum of your gil towards a big home...even if everyone else matched that same sum. Are you going to do it? Go in with others on the Big House?
    King Midas* will not be spending his gil on a house for your information. I will be waiting for prices to drop.After others have blown their loads of gil, and housing has provided the necessary gil sink measures it is intended to do, my gil will then be worth relatively more. I believe someoen made a post about this a couple days ago, about how you get richer by holding on to your gil during deflationary times? But I don't care to explain that...
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    Quote Originally Posted by GinTama View Post
    stop whining people, you are behaving like small brats.
    A p2p game with a f2p game mechanic. lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bizniztyme View Post
    What? Tell that to all the failed businesses, broke stock brokers, hedge funds, etc etc....I hope you're kidding?
    I seem to be doing okay. Their fails are none of my concern. But obviously (and very obviously indeed) you missed the point of my reply. Good selective reading there. Moving on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matsume View Post
    Look man, all I'm saying is: I've earned XX amount of gil since Early Access, and you could have to. If I have enough to buy a house, then you could have to.
    That's about as meaningful as "Bill Gates have made $50 billion, so you could have too."

    While theoretically correct, trying to imply that everyone could've done so, especially at the same time, could not be more wrong. Everyone on the server could not have made as much money as the top earners, that would require people making more money than exists in the entire system.

    It's kinda like the GOP from awhile back saying that if only people would get off their lazy asses, they can all join the 1%, which for anyone who's not mathematically challenged, knows is impossible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matsume View Post
    King Midas* will not be spending his gil on a house for your information. I will be waiting for prices to drop.After others have blown their loads of gil, and housing has provided the necessary gil sink measures it is intended to do, my gil will then be worth relatively more. I believe someoen made a post about this a couple days ago, about how you get richer by holding on to your gil during deflationary times? But I don't care to explain that...
    Exactly...and I'm not spending gil...nor is anyone I know in game spending gil on this anytime soon. Why? BECAUSE WE KNOW THE PRICES ARE ABSURDLY HIGH AND NOT WORTH IT. As do you. So coming in here, bragging about what you personally can or can't afford when you yourself aren't willing to spend that kind of gil on this content atm or ever is kinda stupid isn't it. You agree the prices are not worth your gil, but you wanna argue that the prices are okay? Say what?

    So the 'gil sink that was supposedly going to happen won't. Why? Because the people SE is trying to drain are sitting on their gil piles looking down on the peasants below laughing...and No Gil is being spent/leaving the economy. So why doesn't SE cut the crap, and START the housing at prices that WILL entice folks like you, me and everyone else to WANT to buy them. All the sudden gil WOULD be spent, and gone...but no, they'd rather tick everyone off, force most people out of either choice,principle or poverty to wait at least another 3 months before they consider investing in this content.

    So yeah, if the plan was 'have no one buy a house until at least March 2014...SE's plan worked... if it was as you suggest, to get rid of 'excess server gil' and then allow everyone else their turn...well no one's buying.
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