GOOD JOB YOSHI P!

[BoomerOU]

Now you are making assumptions. I never said I didn't play the market. Matter of fact, I made my first few millions gathering during Early Access. I was the top geared gatherer on my server for three weeks before I even began crafting. I used to buy undercut crawler cocoons for 500 gil x 99 then set em up in stacks of 10 at 1K and sell out instantly - even when I had stacks of coocoons on me. I am no stranger to playing the markets, kid.

Again, you keep focusing on crafting rather than earning gil as a whole. As I told you, my methods of earning gil were myriad. I gathered, I crafted, I farmed, I sold titan merc runs, I even played the market. But you insist on calling this a commitment rather than a challenge? Well, in my subjective opinion, commitments can be challenging.

It truly is an argument in semantics, and I respect your point of view. I just found the rate at which a person could make money when applying themselves to be astoundingly high.

[Faelandaea]

Now you are making assumptions. I never said I didn't play the market. Matter of fact, I made my first few millions gathering during Early Access. I was the top geared gatherer on my server for three weeks before I even began crafting. I used to buy undercut crawler cocoons for 500 gil x 99 then set em up in stacks of 10 at 1K and sell out instantly - even when I had stacks of coocoons on me. I am no stranger to playing the markets, kid.

Again, you keep focusing on crafting rather than earning gil as a whole. As I told you, my methods of earning gil were myriad. I gathered, I crafted, I farmed, I sold titan merc runs, I even played the market. But you insist on calling this a commitment rather than a challenge? Well, in my subjective opinion, commitments can be challenging.

Take it from someone who works retail in real life . . . the only challenge to any market other than trending, and even that is not a challenge, is dealing with a difficult customer . . . oh wait . . . we don't have to do that in this game

Matsume, I did agree with some points you have made through this thread, but I kind of have to stand with others that sitting there playing with numbers is not exactly a challenge. Getting a team of 24 to work together in Crystal Tower . . . THAT is going to be a challenge. Anyone who is even vaguely familiar with retail know far better than to think that doing the same thing in an MMO is anything but being casual and not really participating in content.

Don't get me wrong. I am REALLY glad you have fun doing what you do. that is the awesome bit about an MMO - DIVERSITY - but your attitude of this whole thing and the high and mighty "I am such a badass because I pretend I work Wal Street" is just losing you credibility with your replies, as it eventually lost mine as i continued reading this thread. I have high respect for those who become good at something in any MMO, but that respect is instantly lost when you say things like "I was the top geared such and such for three weeks" when we all know full well that there is NO way of telling who had what gear before or after who. Unless there is some OFFICIALLY published article or reward saying as such, all it does is make you look like you are really into yourself. Confidence is one thing, but yours is not confidence - it's just looking like a Troll now.

Fortunately the solution is pretty easy. Even the forum has an "ignore" function, and your posts are easily hidden with this feature.

[BoomerOU]

A level 1 DoM/W can claim he watch all the video on youtube and read all the strategy post regarding the boss fight and he know every single one of the mechanic, right? Under your logic, you don't have to craft a single item but you can also claim you know exactly how crafting 2 star looks like and you understand how valueable certain material is w/o even using one before?! Fail logic is fail logic, stop pretending and if you spend half the time QQing and raging about the house price and how time consuming it is to make gil, you would've be 100k closer. And only if 1000 of those QQer do that, they would've made it 100m closer.

Lol what? I'd like for you to re-read this current argument of yours and see where 'fail logic' applies. Regardless of what the item does, its demand and rarity mean more than having first hand experience using it with regards from profiting from it. There are countless non crafters who have succeeded.

[Matsume]

It truly is an argument in semantics, and I respect your point of view. I just found the rate at which a person could make money when applying themselves to be astoundingly high.

It's a stupid argument to begin with because it's entirely subjective in nature, what you might find challenging an idiot savant might have a gift for. That being said the rate at which money can be earned deffinately depends on the server you are on. Every server is different and the means to make money differ accordingly. Yes, there are much more lucrative ways to earn gil than crafting, but that's above the point.

The point is, gil was never and still is not hard to come by. Yes, it takes dedication and commitment to earn large sums of it, and this may or may not be challenging to some. However, the only argument of importance is the price of free company housing right? I said it before and Ill say it again (not directed at you persay).


The Housing system is set up such that if left unsold a houses price will deflate over time. If you think the price of housing is too expensive then don't buy one. If what you say is true (that prices are too high for anyone to afford) then no one on your server will buy a house and the prices will continuously drop until the prices are within reasonable range. This is supply and demand, nothing new. The real problem is that people come on these forums and complain about something that is self correcting by nature. NAY, they say, WE WANT IT NOW! Well, I am inclined to think that the only reason half these scrubs are demanding a decrease in prices is because they don't believe half of what they are saying about prices being too high, but rather are jealous at the fact that there may be someone on their server with enough gil to bu the biggest house, and the someone is not them. In the end, it's pure jealousy.

You and I both know I'm right. The only reason anyone has to complain about this is either 1) they are impatient and they want their house NOW or 2) they are jealous and afraid that someone is going to buy their precious house before they do.

[Tridus1x]

Hi I'm avoiding the question presented to me. As normal.

So I asked for a source in which the devs clearly state the intentions of what defines the FC and LS, in order to back up your claims. Of course all you offered was speculation.

Basically anyone with a elementary level of understanding, can see that speculation doesn't not equal fact. Then again, I can see reading comprehension isn't your forte.

Anyways, it was fun destroying you're argument(if you can even call it that) so easily. Glad you did most of the work yourself.

Keep White-Knighting

[Hammerfist]

I will now easily explain to OP why this will not work:

1. This is a game.

2. People play games for having fun.

3. Thousands of hours spent in mindless grinding are NOT fun.

From point 1, 2 and 3 we can deduce that this system of housing, which involves thousands of hours spent in mindless grinding, is NOT appropriate to a game and should therefore be changed.

[Zantetsuken]

I don't understand how a small house, which has the size of ~2 * Inn Room, is being designed for a big free company. It can barely hold 10 players.

(True Strike)

Plus it only holds 50 furnishings... (Even the FFXI mog house allowed more than that.)

The Small FC house is the size I'd expect a personal house to be.

[Bizniztyme]

(True Strike)

Arent you buying the land where you can put a house and other things on it where you buy separately?

[Kinseykinz]

I am rich so why aren't you....

Soo... the BIG question is: Are you going to spend that money King Midus? Do you think it's worth all the work you've done in gathering your fortune to put it down on a premium 'Small Lot' As you said, you can't personally afford another, larger lot. Do you mind putting in a large sum of your gil towards a big home...even if everyone else matched that same sum. Are you going to do it? Go in with others on the Big House?

Are you okay with the fact that if you DO buy a house, ANY House on Any Server now, you paid 50% more than SE values it 3 months down the road?
Or are you going to wait 3 months to buy to save a large portion of your gil?

Because if you aren't going to spend your gil...then all this talk means nothing. SE's attempt at baiting you and your friends into spending it will have failed, and you still will have lots of gil and no use for it...other than I guess bragging on the forums...

Don't get me wrong. I understand they are group projects, and that really you and your FC needs to work together to buy what you want/need...but the disparity in prices for what you get is too great...as is the crazy costs on Legacy servers in general.

[Thunderz]

Posting in a troll thread