Whm receives multiple nerfs , Sch gets buffed

[Exphryl]

A lot of people comment on lustrate; in my parses, lustrate accounts for about 6-8% of my total healing, this does not change much. The fact that they finally fix pets will, even though i managed to adapt and was micromanaging my pet without issues pre-fixes as well, this will just make it so it requires less micro managing and more accurate timing.

I think, for what it's worth, Lustrate is the best clutch heal ability in the game. Don't get me wrong, Benediction is an amazing spell but due to the timer it's situational at best (and even then you are maybe getting 75% health out of it). Having a "Spammable" Instant heal like Lustrate is amazing. (Even if the values are equivalent/lower to the crit on a Cure 2, you can get multiple Lustrates in within a cast of that same cure)

[Sygmaelle]

Whm isn't nerfed, just use Cure 3 on Titan ... tell people to stack under a soils on tumult, where everyone have adloquium from succor, and cure 3 straight away for the strong regen.

They just make you use all the tools of white mages with that patch in an easier fashion, which imho is pretty nice. Too bad for Holy tho :/

[Bellybell]

I have a feeling the majority of the WHM's crying here have likely not played SCH fully geared at endgame with remote experience. The fact you can keep Medica 2 up in boss fights nearly all the time while the tank keeps aggro is a huge plus

yes, a plus if the regeneration is potent enough. and did you just keep MedicaII up while a tank is the only one keep getting hurts? hello??
CureII is nice but super niche and the buff doesn't change anything while the change on CureII proc just do CureIII worse
i also can't help but think some SCH don't know what WHM do

WHM is still very powerful, it was never intended to deal damage so why cry about the role you shouldn't even be fulfilling, you are masters of healing not some godlike DPS

I don't mind the Holy nerf, it was called for. but if you wanna attack at this, please tells your SCH friends to stop bragging about going 100% cleric and let Eos do the job after macro pet implemented, thanks

[Kaonis]

The half MP cost of Cure III SHOULD make it more usable, but still finding a situation to actually use it will be difficult. (Still a buff though, in the technical sense of the word.....)

I disagree on it being difficult. It's a small aoe heal that is cast on someone. It's beyond perfect for healing the melee, while not getting tons of over heal threat you would get with medica if you needed to only get the people around the boss healed up.

I've seen a lot of WHM use medica as a way to heal up damage on the melee/tanks in a fight and pull massive threat from the boss because the ranged/mages are getting over healed. Cure III should be the go to heal when you need to only heal up melee/tanks after a boss local aoe, and medica is your raid wide aoe when everyone is hurt.

[Sheapy]

1. You aren't using Lustrate 3 times a minute. Ever
2. Any decent SCH had their fairy on Steady and manually clicked a skill and steady immediately after as it stands. Now they just don't have to click steady after.
3. 3 lustrates in a row takes 3ish seconds, sometimes more because of animations.

? There have been multiple times where I've used Lustrate 3 times in one minute. Fact is it's a 20% instant max HP heal that "costs" 350 mana with a limitation of the amount of Aetherflow stacks you have. After a Death Sentence, Lustrate is without a doubt the most optimal heal/"mana" ratio spell to use as it isn't effected by infirmary. And honestly as long as you aren't trying to heal through Infirmary with Adlos your mana should never be a limiting factor in T5. Also, any decent SCH is going to be using Selene, so as long as you manually tell her to cast the Fey Glow (skill speed or w/e) there's no reason to steady her.

[SulwynCaliope]

I don't mind the Holy nerf, it was called for. but if you wanna attack at this, please tells your SCH friends to stop bragging about going 100% cleric and let Eos do the job after macro pet implemented, thanks

But SCHs come from a base class of arcanist which is a DPS class so it's only natural that we'd have superior DPS skills to WHMs. Being able to have a pet auto heal while DPSing is part of our job description and is a huge part of being a really good scholar.

[Wilbow]

But SCHs come from a base class of arcanist which is a DPS class so it's only natural that we'd have superior DPS skills to WHMs. Being able to have a pet auto heal while DPSing is part of our job description and is a huge part of being a really good scholar.

WHMs come from a base class of conjurer which is a healing class so it's only natural that we should be better healers. Obviously.

[KahnMeido]

derpsicle

I have played both and I can tell you flat out with 100% certainty that hitting physik embrace followed with a lustrate outpaces anything i can do on a whm outside benediction, especially on a warrior...also benediction has a massive 5 minute cooldown. I have a feeling you've never been on a Whm and actually seen how difficult it is to manage your MP. It must be nice getting 20% back a minute and never having to worry about mana as a resource. ... kids i swear...way to miss 95% of the posts contents and generalize....

[coffeeking]

bah this is not good

[Muzzy]

Guys I would like to put this bantering into end game perspective. I am 11/12 i90 SCH "AND" WHM. I have downed t5.

Here is my input on the changes:
WHM medica II change was to remove the high enemity from the ticks. I do not see it as a nerf, and if you have to get everyone up so quickly you are better chaining medica II > medica I.
WHM Cure III is a huge buff. You guys just do not use it thats why you are hostile towards it. now with cost reduction and radius increase you need to start using it over medica II in certain fights.
SCH Lusterate buff of 5% was due to Virus only being able to be cast once a min. Sacred soil will now have to be used more often in result also.