Warrior: Moment of Truth

[TaneshimaPopura]

So much misinformation in OP post....

-Healing Modifiers do not provide extra threat to the healer.
-You wouldn't weave Vengeance for Wrath stack now with the 30% mitigation it's too valuable to use just for a Wrath stack.
-Storm Path just allows your bard to be lazy now than before. Other than that I will call it a nerf cause you will have trouble providing Storm Eye Debuff
-Holmgang good but effects may be negated as healers have to switch off heals to make this skill worthwhile for the 6 seconds it is active and then make sure you have enough HP after the 6 seconds.
-Convalescence opinion = /facepalm. Big heal numbers =/= more effective heals!
-I didn't read anything about Mantra being 20% let alone 30% in patch notes. It's current state only provides 5% healing increase.

Shield Oath and Defiance enmity was broken cause Enmity was tied to Damage done which was reduced just being in that stance. Things that aren't affected by damage done such as Overhealing with Cure/Flash still generate the intended amount of threat when performed by a tank.

[Truedragon]

-Convalescence opinion = /facepalm. Big heal numbers =/= more effective heals!
-I didn't read anything about Mantra being 20% let alone 30% in patch notes. It's current state only provides 5% healing increase.

What he meant was that with Defiance giving you standard 20% and then you add Convalescence or Mantra for even bigger heals. Because you know, War have access to both. That is actually pretty sweet. On my SCH I cannot do 3k heals like WHM can. Maybe now, it will be easier teaming up with MNK and WAR.

[Zoomie]

What he meant was that with Defiance giving you standard 20% and then you add Convalescence or Mantra for even bigger heals. Because you know, War have access to both. That is actually pretty sweet. On my SCH I cannot do 3k heals like WHM can. Maybe now, it will be easier teaming up with MNK and WAR.

Yeah no. The OP was stating that conv was superior on Warriors which is flat out wrong. Conv has changed in no way and neither has mantra. For matter this "OMG amazing defiance healing buff!" is really only a 5% buff to what wrath stacks gave us prior. 5% is nice but its nothing game changing.

[DarpaChief]

What he meant was that with Defiance giving you standard 20% and then you add Convalescence or Mantra for even bigger heals. Because you know, War have access to both. That is actually pretty sweet. On my SCH I cannot do 3k heals like WHM can. Maybe now, it will be easier teaming up with MNK and WAR.

I think people understood what he was trying to say. It's just that both the figures and the calculations he used were wrong and he was ignoring some skills in PLDs arsenal when making a comparison between the two tanks. Also, mantra isn't worth using on a MRD. 5% healing on a 2min (?) cooldown isn't worth it compared to other MNK skills, (IR or SW).