Yoshi mislead us :(

[Starlord]

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Yup you are right, I am precise with definitions of words. Being misled is to be told something and then when it actually happens it's not what was stated.

House and land are two different things. He ONLY discussed about the house itself, nothing about plots until the last minute.

Now, I will agree with you that he should have stated both ahead of time, Not just state "House will be obtainable with 4-5 people from leveling 1-50". He didn't misled because he didn't actually state anything at all about Plots.

[Nica]

Yup you are right, I am precise with definitions of words. Being misled is to be told something and then when it actually happens it's not what was stated.

House and land are two different things. He ONLY discussed about the house itself, nothing about plots until the last minute.

Now, I will agree with you that he should have stated both ahead of time, Not just state "House will be obtainable with 4-5 people from leveling 1-50". He didn't misled because he didn't actually state anything at all about Plots.

you have a promising career ahead of you as a politician, a lawyer, or a used car salesman.

Yoshi P totally didn't mislead anyone, just like how no politicians ever lie - they merely misspoke.

Imagine asking the dealer how much a car is, and when it's time to pay, the guy tells you the engine will cost you an extra 100x what he quoted the car for.

[Starlord]

you have a promising career ahead of you as a politician.

Why thank you /sarcasm

[Fatestorm]

Yup you are right, I am precise with definitions of words. Being misled is to be told something and then when it actually happens it's not what was stated.

He didn't misled because he didn't actually state anything at all about Plots.

No... Do you not realize that you can mislead by omission as well as by what you say?

If my wife asks me where I've been, and I say "the library", I may be telling the truth, because I stopped there for fifteen minutes on my way home. But I'd be misleading her, because I spent two hours having an affair at my secretary's house, which I omitted from my account. I have mislead her with an incomplete truth.

[Kelvani]

If this was personal housing priced this way, I would be upset. However, it is Free Company housing. If you are a member of an active Free Company, then the price point for entry level housing is realistic. In the process of just following the main quest line, and doing side quests, plus selling a VERY FEW items I crafted as I leveled up, I have managed to save up approximately 1.2 million Gil.

On Goblin, 4-5 players can get the 8 million Gil small grade 5 plot. They might have to wait 90 days until it dropped to 4 million Gil. If we had 8 players ready to kick down we could get our land instantly. Most active guilds will have 15-50 players available, putting the medium plots in range if all are willing to pitch in.

Yes, you wont be able to get the palatial palace right away, but it is only GUILD housing, not personal. Myself, I would rather get our guild a small place to tide us over until personal housing comes out, and start saving up for MY OWN place.

[Kayokane]

No... Do you not realize that you can mislead by omission as well as by what you say?

If my wife asks me where I've been, and I say "the library", I may be telling the truth, because I stopped there for fifteen minutes on my way home. But I'd be misleading her, because I spent two hours having an affair at my secretary's house, which I omitted from my account. I have mislead her with an incomplete truth.

but can you prove to me, without any doubt, that the prices of a plot of land were set, as they are now, at the moment of Yoshi's statement of housing prices?

[WintersMoondancer]

but can you prove to me, without any doubt, that the prices of a plot of land were set, as they are now, at the moment of Yoshi's statement of housing prices?

Can you prove without any doubt that they weren't?

Players have the right to feel a bit mislead. Yoshi knew what question was really being asked even if the exact wording wasn't used in asking. Playing "dumb" to hide information from players at that time was just a way to sidestep the upcoming anger from players around the world, not just NA players. Yoshi is not stupid, far from it. But he needs to choose which questions he answers in a way to postpone potential backlash from the community.

[Kayokane]

Can you prove without any doubt that they weren't?

Nope :3 though, I am absolutely certain that they were still conceptualizing the prices,maybe it's a combination of fan-boyism and optimism, or it may be that I'm studying to be a game developer and understand the things are never really 'final' in a video game until it goes gold, they may have had the information finalized they may not have, to cry foul and declare it misleading would mean you have proof thereof. I'm honestly just sick of people criminalizing others because things that were never actually the main topic of conversation are not the way they pictured them to be, and have no way of actually proving that there was foul play involved.

Players have the right to feel a bit mislead...

That is true.

[Derceto]

No... Do you not realize that you can mislead by omission as well as by what you say?

If my wife asks me where I've been, and I say "the library", I may be telling the truth, because I stopped there for fifteen minutes on my way home. But I'd be misleading her, because I spent two hours having an affair at my secretary's house, which I omitted from my account. I have mislead her with an incomplete truth.

Stop it. You are making far too much sense for these forums.

[Scamperoo]

Yup you are right, I am precise with definitions of words. Being misled is to be told something and then when it actually happens it's not what was stated.

House and land are two different things. He ONLY discussed about the house itself, nothing about plots until the last minute.

Now, I will agree with you that he should have stated both ahead of time, Not just state "House will be obtainable with 4-5 people from leveling 1-50". He didn't misled because he didn't actually state anything at all about Plots.

To lie by OMISSION is nevertheless, still a lie....he's pulling the strings here so he knew.