Bard Nerfs Offically Confirmed

[GYX]

So would I. You have your achievements hidden. Have you even cleared titan? If you have, awesome, if you haven't, you don't belong in this thread.

Even if he was a lvl 1, what he is saying is the truth, if you fail to recognize it then its you who does not belong in the discussion. I can tell you for experience, BRD songs were only needed in my group until everyone had the strat down and gear to complete the fights, now is a joke. I don't even have to play a song until T5, and there is no way I could out DPS a MNK single target or a BLM or SMN in aoe fights, period. I can tell you BRDs are there because of the silence, but is nothing a couple of good PLDs can't manage just as efficiently.

The BRD's nerf cry comes from people who haven't even stepped in coil, (their dmg is op while lvling I admit that much) because if you have, you would know BRD's are not even half as good as people lead you to believe.

[Lecreuset]

It's not there just for the silence. Silencing is only needed in turn 2 and in YOUR case only needs the song for turn 5.

But mostly there for the songs because not everyone is very well geared or good with managing their resources. Not every paladin can handle silencing as well while paying attention to other things. That's just the way it is, people have different levels of skill.

[Akirakogami]

yup bard nerfs only make the game harder.

They'll never nerf mages no matter how much stronger they get from everyone else. It's not like right now end game parties are all bards. You wouldn't have a damage dealing limit break. You still need blm and summoners for their strengths. And you need a lancer or two. The only problem with the dps roles is how weak monk is.

So now you still need to have a bard in your party, but it will do less. great? it won't help you beat titan.

[Shadow_Paw]

you are not wrong ppl just seem blinded by thinking dpsing things is smarter then tactics. knowing the point in moves and why you have them. maybe ask why the class has such a small amount of move that do damage compared to mnk/drg/blm. these DD classes have alot more in comparison on there mind other then just moving out of harms way with how some rotations can be to be top. plus its not like this new wave of Final players are in anyway open to tips like its so bad learning something new? i think that yes the bard can really hit hard if your doing thing like ak that are more or less mindless killing fests.1/3

[Shadow_Paw]

that mite be the way to sell games now but i think that game play is simple. so why Nerf something your going to have to end up buffing or making up for in someway just become those that are mad dont know how that class works and let them do anything they want with the dps when the lvl it 50. but this is going to gimp end game for those that at least try to really learn a class from all sides not just dps means damage. that is on you square you want have a class like that call it what it is not what it can be. with that i hope when you Nerf this class you make A new class to tree off called Ranger and have the brd be not dps but support like small heals debuffs buff if not this game will not last i fear sadly :*(. make end game so fast and easy to get to give it a short shelf life so find ways to distract us like nms i miss so much i know it will take longer to reach end game the longer its out. 2/3

[Shadow_Paw]

thats only good for you square and those that did not pay for you to find ways to make this game better. like we are now "we being all that pay or payed in 1.0 for a name we love and dont want to see die. this game has its following for a reason peaple love final and will pay tell you find your nitch but this ppl dont sit and cry over a dps toon on forums we lvl thats toon/class so please keep this in mind if someone other then those that are looking to cry there way to end game then most likely bounce to the next hot mmo end rant... by the way for those that think im a 50 brd! my only 50 class is Drg had brd almost to 34 at end of 1.0 for a move that did not matter in 2.0 but i have started lvl brd since all this Nerf talk to show those dsp fiends what they should have done so stop the crying. as for the babys that now need to set up cause its not like that brd can anymore3/3

[RunsWscissors]

a)Most melee DPS need to worry about boss centric AoE so by simply saying that other melee DPS dont need to worry about stuff simply show how ignorant you are.

b)Even if they nerf BRD still wont change the fact that BRD is still desirable to endgame due to the fact of how BCoB is being design(silence, song) and other class interrupt being too unreliable.

c)It is still unknown what are the nerfs to BRD so saying it is a DPS nerf is simply jumping to conclusion with much envidence.

I hate the 1k word limit >.>

ok im ignorant but funny how not 1 of your little abc's was actually in my post.. guess that's why u put snippet instead so u could say w/e u want and not look like a retard. oops it happened anyway.

[RyuDragnier]

I hate the 1k word limit >.>

I heard you can edit past that amount. If it's true, awesome.

[Relapse]

Whelp I hate to say I told you so... but I told you so.

[Leiron]

yup bard nerfs only make the game harder.

They'll never nerf mages no matter how much stronger they get from everyone else. It's not like right now end game parties are all bards. You wouldn't have a damage dealing limit break. You still need blm and summoners for their strengths. And you need a lancer or two. The only problem with the dps roles is how weak monk is.

So now you still need to have a bard in your party, but it will do less. great? it won't help you beat titan.

If you bring a BRD with a SMN and a BLM, your Foe's Requiem will boost their damage enough to make up for the loss of your own.
Or should, correct me if I err on how much it improves DPS.

The nerfs to bard aren't making the game harder.
RoD being changed was shifted to WAR.
The DPS nerfs are not going to kill BRD DPS, though BRD DPS, ifI remember right is at the bottom compared to everyone.

BLM did get a nerf actually. They fixed the double dip bug which is somewhat significant, and lowered the AOE burst potential as well.
They also removed thunder from SMN repetoire dropping their DPS by 7.5%.