WHAT?! 625 Million for first class House?

[Vahlnir]

No. But my FC would really like one within the first year. :-\

This is where most of the frustration is coming from. I'm all for having to work toward something greater as a team but...these prices, if they are really the intended ones are going to limit the casual crowd from accessing this content for a good long while, and that just isn't good for business nowadays.

[axemtitanium]

We have about 30 active members in our guild. we've raised 8 million. the cheapest most run down house is 8 mil on our server. You want me to put 30 members of my guild in a house the size of an inn room.

Tell me more, please.

If all 30 members of your FC contributed 1 million each, you could buy a medium sized house, which is the appropriate size for an FC of your size. At 1.2 million each, you can buy the best medium house. 1 million each isn't hard. I made 1 million last week.

[jmdatcs]

I was really looking forward to the housing, which is strange because I usually don't care about things like that. My enthusiasm for the game just took a huge nosedive. I'm not saying I'm going to unsubscribe, but for the first time since beta, I can see myself not logging in for a while, weeks even. And the idea of moving to another game is now something I would consider today, not just sometime in the far off future.

I don't know why, it's just a little vanity mini-game really and it shouldn't change the way I feel about the game this much, but all of a sudden, I just don't give a fuck about ffxiv.

[senjyo]

If you\\'re a tiny FC with 10 members, 625 million is an outrageous amount of money but that\\'s because those huge houses are NOT DESIGNED FOR A COMPANY OF THAT SIZE.

Well said. Too many "casual" gamer out there that don\\'t want to do much but want to have the best stuff. If the best stuff is so easy to get, then there is no reason to have small/medium land. Does new generation now day prefer to have everything handed to them? Have a sense of hard work and accomplishment please.

P.S don\\'t say something like this is a game and it suppose to be enjoyable. I enjoy making money off people who is too dumb/lazy to learn how to make money. Pretty enjoyable for me. This same logic apply to irl as well.

[Sotek]

I really don't get why people are complaining about Free Company Housing being gated... We've known that for months, the fact that it is solely for Free Companies was a pretty big give away...

Very small Free Companies, you're outliers. Sorry. Unless you were one of those people who went and made their own Free Company for Housing, then haha.
Small Free Companies, probably still outliers. I'd imagine SE is working off 8 as a reasonable size for the smallest Free Company, and 24 (Alliance size, despite no Alliance content) as a good midpoint.

If we take 24 man Free Companies as an expected average (or rather, desired average), and everyone in that Free Company donates 3,000Gil after every dungeon run, that's 72,000Gil every dungeon run. If this Free Company is expected to buy the most expensive mid-sized plot, at 187,500,000Gil, then that is just over 2,600 runs. That's under 60 days worth of dungeon runs. Just Gil from dungeon runs. Not even factoring Allagan pieces or Materia. Nothing else. That is a ridiculous way to make Gil, but it provides a consistent measure for how much Gil players can accumulate. The path of least effort, as it were. In those 60 days, the price will have dropped .14% 240 times, and the cost will have lowered by about 33%, to about 125M. Again, this is just with spare change from dungeons, the worst, but easiest, way to make Gil.

Just like every other piece of content in the game, Housing is meant to keep players busy for a while. If your small Free Company could go out and buy a house next month, large ones could buy them on Tuesday. Could they have done things differently and made the plot cheaper and the cost of building more expensive? Probably not. It's a good idea on paper, and it would certainly be more fun to build the house, rather than have it teleport in, but materials are just so abundant, even Unspoiled ones. I'd actually still probably prefer that, to a degree, since it'd be more interesting, but it wont do a thing for people complaining about the cost now. Just replace "I can't afford 625M" with "I can't gather 625 Spruce Lumber". If anything, it'd be worse. Everyone can make Gil to some degree, only people who leveled the correct Disciples of Land can gather. If you didn't level Botany and can't gather your own Spruce Logs, then you'll have players like me screwing you out of your Gil, instead of SE. Actually, I'd definitely prefer that... Hmmm...

[Loam]

My reaction to plots' prices:
http://www.myfacewhen.net/view/6180-angry-mnt

Gold sellers' reaction:
http://www.myfacewhen.net/view/5602-bill-cosby

[Stanelis]

Well said. Too many "casual" gamer out there that don\\'t want to do much but want to have the best stuff. If the best stuff is so easy to get, then there is no reason to have small/medium land. Does new generation now day prefer to have everything handed to them? Have a sense of hard work and accomplishment please.

P.S don\\'t say something like this is a game and it suppose to be enjoyable. I enjoy making money off people who is too dumb/lazy to learn how to make money. Pretty enjoyable for me. This same logic apply to irl as well.

Why people think housing should be a hardcore feature is definitively beyond all comprehension. I mean, why ? It does not make the gameplay better or more interesting, it does not add content to the game, it's just a feature meant to be RP and fun. Why the hell would you want it to be a hardcore feature ? Please clarify this point because I just cannot understand.

I really don't get why people are complaining about Free Company Housing being gated...

Why ? Because the feature has been hyped by yoshida since november 2012 and presented as a selling argument for FFXIV ARR.

then that is just over 2,600 runs.

Wow, how fun, how exciting ! I'm thrilled by the idea to run amdapor over and over again... oh wait I'm already running it since I hit level 50.

[IfritReborn]

Can I just point out, some are saying this is a long term thing and you shouldn't get it right away and should be saving up. But I'd like to bring out some us are also saving for PERSONAL HOUSING. So now I need to be saving for both? And where am I getting all this gil from?

[LyrioDC]

No wonder's there's so much homelessness in Ul'Dah. Look how much people have to pay for a house.

This was so funny I showed it to some of my FC members...They thought you were pretty spot on xD

[IfritReborn]

If all 30 members of your FC contributed 1 million each, you could buy a medium sized house, which is the appropriate size for an FC of your size. At 1.2 million each, you can buy the best medium house. 1 million each isn't hard. I made 1 million last week.

I would like to know how 1M is made