WHAT?! 625 Million for first class House?

[Sotek]

I really don't get why people are complaining about Free Company Housing being gated... We've known that for months, the fact that it is solely for Free Companies was a pretty big give away...

Very small Free Companies, you're outliers. Sorry. Unless you were one of those people who went and made their own Free Company for Housing, then haha.
Small Free Companies, probably still outliers. I'd imagine SE is working off 8 as a reasonable size for the smallest Free Company, and 24 (Alliance size, despite no Alliance content) as a good midpoint.

If we take 24 man Free Companies as an expected average (or rather, desired average), and everyone in that Free Company donates 3,000Gil after every dungeon run, that's 72,000Gil every dungeon run. If this Free Company is expected to buy the most expensive mid-sized plot, at 187,500,000Gil, then that is just over 2,600 runs. That's under 60 days worth of dungeon runs. Just Gil from dungeon runs. Not even factoring Allagan pieces or Materia. Nothing else. That is a ridiculous way to make Gil, but it provides a consistent measure for how much Gil players can accumulate. The path of least effort, as it were. In those 60 days, the price will have dropped .14% 240 times, and the cost will have lowered by about 33%, to about 125M. Again, this is just with spare change from dungeons, the worst, but easiest, way to make Gil.

Just like every other piece of content in the game, Housing is meant to keep players busy for a while. If your small Free Company could go out and buy a house next month, large ones could buy them on Tuesday. Could they have done things differently and made the plot cheaper and the cost of building more expensive? Probably not. It's a good idea on paper, and it would certainly be more fun to build the house, rather than have it teleport in, but materials are just so abundant, even Unspoiled ones. I'd actually still probably prefer that, to a degree, since it'd be more interesting, but it wont do a thing for people complaining about the cost now. Just replace "I can't afford 625M" with "I can't gather 625 Spruce Lumber". If anything, it'd be worse. Everyone can make Gil to some degree, only people who leveled the correct Disciples of Land can gather. If you didn't level Botany and can't gather your own Spruce Logs, then you'll have players like me screwing you out of your Gil, instead of SE. Actually, I'd definitely prefer that... Hmmm...

[Sephir]

nvm it's not worth it.

[VitaminMT]

2600 runs/60 = 44 runs every day for 60 days? AH AH AH AH AH!

Hi No-life Nerd?

Way to trip over yourself. It's 2600 runs divided amongst 24 members. That's probably two runs a day for sixty days, with change to spare for repairs.

Come on, dude.

[Sotek]

2600 runs/60 = 44 runs every day for 60 days? AH AH AH AH AH!

Hi No-life Nerd?

Again, this is just with spare change from dungeons, the worst, but easiest, way to make Gil.

The path of least resistance =/= what people should do. An example is just an example, personally I can make a days worth of Wanderer's Palace runs Gil in a hour or so of crafting.

Gil from dungeons provides a simple, and consistent measure of how much Gil anyone can produce. That's why I use it as an example...

Technically speaking, I imagine it would be far more efficient to farm Wanderer's Palace for Gil by just pulling the first few mobs (up to the first or second set of bugs, since they're so weak) and then leaving and reentering. With a premade that's certainly possible, and those first few pulls are a few minutes for quite a bit of Gil.

[Kallera]

This is a travesty, and discrimination that will only harm crafters in the days to come. I think the furniture market is dead in the water with these absurd prices walling off houses to put the furniture in, and a lot of FC with the money to spend on houses will do their crafting "in house" as it were.

[Sotek]

This is travesty that will only harm crafters in the days to come. I think the furniture market is dead in the water with these absurd prices walling off houses to put the furniture in, and a lot of FC with the money to spend on houses will do their crafting "in house" as it were.

Furniture market was dead on arrival anyway, for Free Company housing at least, personal housing might be a different story. Most Free Companies should already be able to craft furniture themselves, even those that cant... Furniture was never going to be a good market anyway, outside the trophies from Primals/Coil. Materials are too cheap, and with no need to HQ... Yeah...

Ideally though, they should have made it so we actually have to build the house. Like I said earlier though, that would just mean gatherers/crafters would be screwing you out of Gil, instead of SE. Rather than "I can't get that much Gil!", we'd have "I can't get that many Logs!" instead, too...

[Kallera]

Furniture market was dead on arrival anyway, for Free Company housing at least, personal housing might be a different story. Most Free Companies should already be able to craft furniture themselves, even those that cant... Furniture was never going to be a good market anyway, outside the trophies from Primals/Coil. Materials are too cheap, and with no need to HQ... Yeah...

Ideally though, they should have made it so we actually have to build the house. Like I said earlier though, that would just mean gatherers/crafters would be screwing you out of Gil, instead of SE. Rather than "I can't get that much Gil!", we'd have "I can't get that many Logs!" instead, too...

I'm sorry, but SE doesn't count as the player community. at least with crafters that gil can be circulated into other purchases and activities, like a proper economy.

But no, we can't trust crafters, gil needs to be worthless just like in the game, so that SE can use it to wall off progression in every other activity!

[Laf]

snip

26000 runs, not 2600.