WHAT?! 625 Million for first class House?

[Yshnal]

This kind of content is usually targeted at those who are not interested in grinding and doing endgame content the whole time, who play a game to feel immersed in the game's world, to enjoy spending hours just happily doing emotes with their friends chilling out in their company's headquarter, rather than play with the numbers and only care about the next drop.
Yet, with prices like these, the only people who can use this feature are only the most hardcore players, leaving the players who are actually intended to be the target of the housing system outside.

QFT.

And the worse part of it is that buying land is the very first step in order to start using the housing system. Without it you can't do anything, you can't see any kind of progress or say "Phew guys, after 3 months we finally got to finish decorating that room with what we wanted, it looks awesome with that EX Primals and Coil furniture. Now we can start with the rest". No, you can only see the gil on your bank slowly growing (super fun), without being able to play that content. Would you like that after you talk with J'brohka to enter Coil she tells you "Ok, and now I need you to bring me 100 millions of gil to... uhm... Oh, yeah, to buy explosives to open a new entrance for you *Smile*"? It wouldn't be fun, right? I know I would have wanted to kill her if she had told me that.

[yamface]

This explains your attitude. You have no place in the argument, your housing is cheap. Our fc is working with the same gil you are but we have to pay 20mil for smallest.

I just made a character on balmung, one of the most expensive servers (legacy). Vanya hat for 2M on market board? LOL. I see you have next to 0 understanding of economics.

90% of the subscription base says you are wrong.

Made up statistics are fun.

Yea sorry what I shouldve said was that hardcore players probably account even more than half, I will say "most" to keep vague and make you happy about me not making up stats. Not sure what cave you live in but the balance between casual/hardcore has never been equal.

[Jynx]

I just made a character on balmung, one of the most expensive servers (legacy). Vanya hat for 2M on market board?

Come on over to Aegis where the Philo matts barely cost less than the finished HQ items.

[Stanelis]

Guess you haven't seen their forums LOL. If you're not in the top 1%, be prepared to be bashed to the ground.

Anywho @whisper: this is a classic design to not kill a game off. Housing prices is probably the second challenge ever brought into this game aside from fully completing coil.

[snip]

Thing is housing shouldn't be a hardcore feature but something everybody should get access to. Like I said in another topic, in most modern MMO everybody can toy with housing but you have to grind and work hard for the rarest and finest housing furnitures (and/or the best houses if there are premade designs).

I see no reason to gate the housing such as it is done with the current system. Especially when you have to go through content unrelated to housing to actually unlock the feature through money (plus, you have then to craft all furnitures, which should be a FC effort).

The difference between housing cost and BCoil is that everybody can get a shot to coil.

And the worse part of it is that buying land is the very first step in order to start using the housing system. Without it you can't do anything, you can't see any kind of progress or say "Phew guys, after 3 months we finally got to finish decorating that room with what we wanted, it looks awesome with that EX Primals and Coil furniture. Now we can start with the rest". No, you can only see the gil on your bank slowly growing (super fun), without being able to play that content. Would you like that after you talk with J'brohka to enter Coil she tells you "Ok, and now I need you to bring me 100 millions of gil to... uhm... Oh, yeah, to buy explosives to open a new entrance for you *Smile*"? It wouldn't be fun, right? I know I would have wanted to kill her if she had told me that.

^^^^

[Andybell256]

you know you dont have to have the largest house on the best plots right please stop crying and buy a cheaper plot if you cant afford it there are other sizes and plots its not like you cant have a house, and bravo to SE for something that isnt super casual like 99% of the game.5

[EdwinLi]

Might be fine for FC who just recruit loads of random players. FCs that consist of small groups of friends are SoL.

well that is the current issue for FC House Price now.

I personally never expect SE to place a price that would allow a decent amount of FC to buy land for their FC Housing anyways. For now we can only wait and see how the decrease in prices over a set of time will handle.

[IStolzI]

Oh my god I have to work for something. I have to make hard decisions in an RPG. No. Unsubscribe boycott. RPGs are dead.

[Ferr]

I have the strong suspicion that gil is not nearly as widely distributed as Yoshi thinks it is, and only a very small percentage of the FC's will be able to afford any house on the Legacy servers any time soon. Yes, there are individuals with 10's of millions by themselves, but there are a lot of 20 person FC's with half inactive players, and the rest having 200K-2M each. I would not be in the least surprised if a significant portion of the rich individuals fall into a small number of Free Companies.

Yea thats it. They just looked at how much money is moving on a server, without taking into account how many people are moving those big chunks of money. Seems like they even forgot that new non-Legacy players could join a Legacy server.

you know you dont have to have the largest house on the best plots right please stop crying and buy a cheaper plot if you cant afford it there are other sizes and plots its not like you cant have a house, and bravo to SE for something that isnt super casual like 99% of the game

even the cheapest house isnt affordable by a lot of FCs in a Legacy server. And we are talking about a house that cant barely hold more than six people.

[Reslin]

Oh my god I have to work for something. I have to make hard decisions in an RPG. No. Unsubscribe boycott. RPGs are dead.

Working for something that achieves skill is one thing. This isn't about work. It's about "Do you have enough people in your FC to donate the gil? If not you're screwed." Work implies effort. This isn't effort it's about time. Time is not effort.

[Aenarion]

I just made a character on balmung, one of the most expensive servers (legacy). Vanya hat for 2M on market board? LOL. I see you have next to 0 understanding of economics.


Yea sorry what I shouldve said was that hardcore players probably account even more than half, I will say "most" to keep vague and make you happy about me not making up stats. Not sure what cave you live in but the balance between casual/hardcore has never been equal.

Let me guess, it's a penta-meld vanya?

FYI, a HQ vanya hat(casting) sells for under 225k on Sargatanas right now, and that's not even the worst part - it's taken more than 10 days to move the last 20 pieces sold, this comes out to 2 pcs sold on the entire server per day, because most people these days just make it themselves.

Now what do you think is going to happen with even more people trying to jump in to supply the non-existent market?