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    LiadansWhisper's Avatar
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    Liadan Summerfield
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    Quote Originally Posted by yamface View Post
    Uh yea not in the mood in dealing with someone who can't exactly read english, but yes, you DONT deserve a house. Period. If you cannot afford it. First class, fifth class. For whatever reason you think I was talking about first class? lol if you cant afford 4M gil between 10+ people, you dont get a house. The world does not blow up, nor does it stop you from progressing through the game if you dont have a house. That is called a luxury. But ok, you can keep being butthurt and call me a strawman.

    Thank you.
    It's like you didn't even look at the prices. o_O
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    Quote Originally Posted by LiadansWhisper View Post
    It's like you didn't even look at the prices. o_O
    I have. On my server the most ghetto plot of land you can get is 4M. Now assuming your fc is 10 members. I consider this pretty small, and I don't know the minimum fc size is but I'll stick with 10. Each player chipping in the gil they earned from questing up until that point should be 250k per person. That's 2.5M, already over the halfway point. 12 WP runs get you 9 philo mats, which can get you 150k - 180 (ionno depends on server but this is the price on the least inflated one). There's your 4M gil. Or at least close to it.

    The prices are made to have your fc make a team effort. Not solo it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yamface View Post
    I have. On my server the most ghetto plot of land you can get is 4M. Now assuming your fc is 10 members. I consider this pretty small, and I don't know the minimum fc size is but I'll stick with 10. Each player chipping in the gil they earned from questing up until that point should be 250k per person. That's 2.5M, already over the halfway point. 12 WP runs get you 9 philo mats, which can get you 150k - 180 (ionno depends on server but this is the price on the least inflated one). There's your 4M gil. Or at least close to it.

    The prices are made to have your fc make a team effort. Not solo it.
    The base price on my server for the smallest, crappiest plot of land is 20,000,000. Not 4 million. My FC has about 3 million total, and we've been working for weeks now, some people longer.
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    Player Azurus's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by yamface View Post
    I have. On my server the most ghetto plot of land you can get is 4M. Now assuming your fc is 10 members. I consider this pretty small, and I don't know the minimum fc size is but I'll stick with 10. Each player chipping in the gil they earned from questing up until that point should be 250k per person. That's 2.5M, already over the halfway point. 12 WP runs get you 9 philo mats, which can get you 150k - 180 (ionno depends on server but this is the price on the least inflated one). There's your 4M gil. Or at least close to it.

    The prices are made to have your fc make a team effort. Not solo it.
    now what about the new players who were unlucky enough to have to roll on a legacy server to play with friends?
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    Player yamface's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azurus View Post
    now what about the new players who were unlucky enough to have to roll on a legacy server to play with friends?
    Okay now this is a decent point (first one in like 4 pages lol). That sucks. I won't lie. That just sucks. I don't have experience on legacy servers but I can at least guess that the economy is still inflated. New players can still earn 8 figure gil at a much faster rate than normal servers, but yes the quest gold is a small crutch. Nothing is perfect I guess.
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    Player Jynx's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by yamface View Post
    I don't have experience on legacy servers but I can at least guess that the economy is still inflated.
    Well riddle me this then, if you have no idea what the econ is like on legacy servers how can you even warant a guess at what making gil is like?

    *Edit*

    I just did some research I made a new character on Lich one of the cheaper housing severs and did some research on their more expensive items.


    LICH
    Tome items such as Potash are selling for
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    16-20k
    Vanya Robe of casting is around 250k (Cost of goods 200k to make all NQ items)
    I extremely high melded crafter can guarantee a 100% synthesis on this item and make a 50k profit it sell rather quickly

    Aegis
    Tome items such as Potash are selling for
    --------
    10k
    Vanya Robe of casting is around 120k (Cost of goods 95k to make all NQ items)
    I extremely high melded crafter can guarantee a 100% synthesis on this item and make a 25k profit it sells rather slowly due to higher density of crafters that are decked

    How is this balanced? Where are people on Aegis supposed to be able to make more money than those on other servers? Hell I wont even overstate other crafts with much better/worse cost balances on Legacy vs non legacy servers.
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    Last edited by Jynx; 12-15-2013 at 05:40 AM.

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    Aenarion Estelvir
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by yamface View Post
    I have. On my server the most ghetto plot of land you can get is 4M. Now assuming your fc is 10 members. I consider this pretty small, and I don't know the minimum fc size is but I'll stick with 10. Each player chipping in the gil they earned from questing up until that point should be 250k per person. That's 2.5M, already over the halfway point. 12 WP runs get you 9 philo mats, which can get you 150k - 180 (ionno depends on server but this is the price on the least inflated one). There's your 4M gil. Or at least close to it.

    The prices are made to have your fc make a team effort. Not solo it.
    Earth to yamface, yours is only 1 out 5 tiers, and the cheapest to boot. On my servers the cheapest is 20 mil, and for some it's 40mil.

    Quote Originally Posted by yamface View Post
    Okay now this is a decent point (first one in like 4 pages lol). That sucks. I won't lie. That just sucks. I don't have experience on legacy servers but I can at least guess that the economy is still inflated. New players can still earn 8 figure gil at a much faster rate than normal servers, but yes the quest gold is a small crutch. Nothing is perfect I guess.
    Nope, everything is shitty, because the inherent system behind the economies of both are the same - one of continually decreasing demand coupled with ever-increasing supply, nothing is worth jack shit nowadays.
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    Last edited by Aenarion; 12-15-2013 at 05:06 AM.

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    Player yamface's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aenarion View Post
    Earth to yamface, yours is only 1 out 5 tiers, and the cheapest to boot. On my servers the cheapest is 20 mil, and for some it's 40mil.
    Economics my friend :>

    Devs didn't intentionally raise prices on you guys for no reason.
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    Roric Sinwolf
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    Quote Originally Posted by yamface View Post
    I have. On my server the most ghetto plot of land you can get is 4M. Now assuming your fc is 10 members. I consider this pretty small, and I don't know the minimum fc size is but I'll stick with 10. Each player chipping in the gil they earned from questing up until that point should be 250k per person. That's 2.5M, already over the halfway point. 12 WP runs get you 9 philo mats, which can get you 150k - 180 (ionno depends on server but this is the price on the least inflated one). There's your 4M gil. Or at least close to it.

    The prices are made to have your fc make a team effort. Not solo it.
    This explains your attitude. You have no place in the argument, your housing is cheap. Our fc is working with the same gil you are but we have to pay 20mil for smallest.
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    Player yamface's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raagnar View Post
    This explains your attitude. You have no place in the argument, your housing is cheap. Our fc is working with the same gil you are but we have to pay 20mil for smallest.
    I just made a character on balmung, one of the most expensive servers (legacy). Vanya hat for 2M on market board? LOL. I see you have next to 0 understanding of economics.

    Quote Originally Posted by beeraga
    90% of the subscription base says you are wrong.

    Made up statistics are fun.
    Yea sorry what I shouldve said was that hardcore players probably account even more than half, I will say "most" to keep vague and make you happy about me not making up stats. Not sure what cave you live in but the balance between casual/hardcore has never been equal.
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