Have we broken Yoshi-P?

[Peregrine]

If Yoshida can release a solid 1.18-1.2, he can start a little swagger in his step.
Everyone here will treat him like the 2nd coming of Sakaguchi if he succeeds, even the trolls.

He should take comfort in the idea that if he succeeds, he will be our go-to guy in Square Enix for life. I mean that's it. Saving this game is ALL he has to do to get a blank check on making any game he wants made. Anything.

And if he fails, we will not blame him. He inherited a boat at the bottom of the harbor. Lucky him.

[Soma]

well this is how i see it.

after the horrible launch of FF14. it was Tanaka's baby. the only honorable thing to do was to step down.

instead of throwing it all away. SE picked, asked or promoted someone with in the company. that someone was Yoshi-p

although im sure at first Yoshi probably didnt realize what a complete mess this game was.

slowly its coming around. i personally dont mind the wait.

but for gamers who game. going from hot game to next hot game. i dont think it would matter how fast or slow these updates come out

my hope is they can pull this off.

i support Yoshi-p and the whole SE team.

i think the thing is? the thing is the unknown. no one knows whats gona happen or what these patches will be like.

i really believe that SE has more to lose on this game then we do. we can just move on
if its a bust? then FF will never be the same

DO IT YOSHI!!! AND DO IT RIGHT!! <3

[Rowyne]

You know, the man is probably exhausted. He's having to eat, sleep, and breathe FFXIV.

Turning this game around isn't just important for the sake of a single title. Not even to make this right for the players who bought the game. There's a bigger picture. This has tarnished the name of the Final Fantasy series, which has always meant quality. Wada has publicly admitted there is an internal quality issue, and that there will be some major restructuring. Turning this game around will be proof that Square Enix is a reputable company who can still produce a quality product. If it fails, it will have a larger impact than just another failed MMO.

On top of all this, right now he's got a deadline to meet with 1.18 and E3 right around the corner (which probably doesn't affect the team since E3 is usually for up and coming projects, but who knows what's going on behind the scenes).

The pressure is on. Sometimes I wonder how he sleeps at night.

[Sovereign]

@Peregrine

Ehhhh.... sorta. If he fails, I will certainly blame him. As the producer, he should have to sign off on everything that gets added to the game. If it turns out to be crap, then it suggests that his standards are not up to par (in my mind, anyways). That said, I'm certainly hoping that 1.18 turns out well!

[Vanguard319]

Considering the sheer number of troll posts on the English forums, I'm surprised he hasn't told us all to go f!&$ ourselves yet. I wouldn't blame him either for wanting to do so.

[Alerion]

Vesp/Gifthorse threads: Like a bad wreck on the interstate. You shouldn't look, but you do out of morbid curiosity.

And Yoshida isn't broken, he's busy. He knew full well what he was getting into, including the whiny playerbase

The fact that you can call anyone whiny when it comes to this game is laughable. I suppose if you were to go buy a new car, only to find you couldn't drive it off the lot due to not having an engine you'd just puff your shoulders out and take it like a man.

Most every complaint is valid. Fact is, the game still sucks, coming up on a year after launch. It is obvious that those who hate this game, yet stick around, do so to better the game and support the company.

[Aver]

The fact that you can call anyone whiny when it comes to this game is laughable. I suppose if you were to go buy a new car, only to find you couldn't drive it off the lot due to not having an engine you'd just puff your shoulders out and take it like a man.

Most every complaint is valid. Fact is, the game still sucks, coming up on a year after launch. It is obvious that those who hate this game, yet stick around, do so to better the game and support the company.

It's not the complaints themselves, it's the way the complaints are presented. Instead of being mature about it and presenting a problem like an adult, you get DIS GAEM SUCKS AMG FEEX NAO OR I KWEET.

Stop that. Seriously. You're only making yourself look like you haven't gone through the terrible two's yet.

Yeah the game sucks. One cannot deny the stark reality of this, but there are better ways to address issues. Sorry there are no instant responses and devs being at the playerbases' beck and call. They have jobs to do - specifically to make your game better so you stop ***.

edit: Also, car analogies are pointless, because if you didn't test drive the car before buying it, you're an idiot.
If you read the reviews and still came to the game with expectations of it being any different than the reviews, you're the very definition of insane.
If you *didn't* read the reviews, you make my head hurt. It's 2011, the internet is pretty much everywhere and is required to play this game. Why in God's name would you not put forth the half an hour to hour of your life before you threw down 60-80 dollars of your money and read up on the pos you were getting yourself into? Unless you like punishment, then that's really none of my business.

If I come off as harsh, good. Because half of you people need a reality check. I knew what I was getting myself into when I bought the CE. I signed up for and played through the horrid beta with it's unusable UI, and I've seen this game come a long way than what it was before Yoshida.

And it'll only get better.

[Neptune]

The fact that you can call anyone whiny when it comes to this game is laughable. I suppose if you were to go buy a new car, only to find you couldn't drive it off the lot due to not having an engine you'd just puff your shoulders out and take it like a man.

Most every complaint is valid. Fact is, the game still sucks, coming up on a year after launch. It is obvious that those who hate this game, yet stick around, do so to better the game and support the company.

Well said.

It's not the complaints themselves, it's the way the complaints are presented. ... there are better ways to address issues.

edit: Also, car analogies are pointless, because if you didn't test drive the car before buying it, you're an idiot.

If I come off as harsh, good. Because half of you people need a fraking reality check. I knew what I was getting myself into when I bought the CE. .

Well not said.

And just for the hell of it: Alerion didn't say anything about the complaint's presentation when he said they were valid.. so why aren't you agreeing with him? Ah, because you have a point to make. Yet, how strange that you didn't make your own point without appearing to be in opposition to Alerion's post. How do you explain that?

The car analogy is good. The analogy is, players trusted Square Enix if they bought the game expecting quality. Your criticism of his point takes nothing away from the concept that players' whiny complaints are related to their reasonable expectations of Square Enix. You were criticizing his point - do you disagree that whiny complaints have been made based on expectations of quality?

I knew what I was getting into when I bought the CE too, and I'm still proud to be a FFXIV player. But I'm not arguing with other people on baseless points. Alerion's point is that we should show a little respect to people more whiny than us and I think that is a nice thought. They are here because they care about the game. So what do you have to gain by attacking that point? If I had to guess I would say you're defending your own poorly thought-through ideas just because you have nothing else to say. Kind of like how a squirrel runs up a tree because it has nothing else to do.

My next post will be in defense of Aver's poorly thought out arguments, although I might need a little more to go on than FFXIV drama.

[Elexia]

The pressure is on. Sometimes I wonder how he sleeps at night.

Like most devs on a tight "Get this right/out" schedule, he doesn't. Funny enough, people tend to side with the "I'm against SE and XIV and I'll be vocal about it" camp, yet if you say something reasonable or, you know intelligent, you get labeled a fanboi, defense force or idiot. Complaining is fine, but constantly complaining about *** they know is already wrong and have STATED is going to be worked on..does no good especially constantly posting soandso sucks.

If something is THAT BAD to you..why not leave? Serious question. Why stick around spreading negativity and trolling instead of just..leaving and saving yourself the time and energy?

[Aver]

I agree with you Neptune, there needs to be a little more tolerance, but at a middle ground. I'm quiet by nature, and I've come to the conclusion that people listen to someone more when they choose their words carefully and present a well thought out argument.

I'll admit, yep there are plenty of valid complaints and that everyone has them. The problem is, half the forum sounds like a group of screaming preschoolers who aren't getting icecream every day. Like seriously, sorry guys.

What I very respectfully disagree with you on (and you're someone I can relate to, even) is that my arguments are poorly thought out.

Knowledge is power. However passe (sorry, no accents due to sheer laziness) this phrase may be, it's true. The information was out there. There were videos and reviews, biased both for and against this game. I purchase absolutely nothing before doing the most thorough research I possibly can, simply because my money is worth something to me. I work hard for this ***.

That being said, I had the experience and knowledge to make an informed decision *before* I preordered the game. Once open beta was out, there were no NDAs - anyone and everyone could see what was going on, what sucked and what didn't. This game was no surprise.

Yet I still bought it. I made an informed decision, however irrational to someone else it may be, but the fact is I bought it. And I would buy it again today. Not because of a blind love for SE/FF, but because I know it's a brand new game with tremendous potential.

It seems people are blinded to that fact, which brings me back to Alerion's point, and my opening statement. Come to a middle ground. Quiet down and handle things like a mature adult. And if you haven't reached adulthood yet, handle things in a more mature age-appropriate manner. I want to see the game succeed as much as you, but after seeing gifthorse/vesp bring up troll thread after troll thread I'd much prefer they just leave and find another game to be unhappy with, as there is no pleasing people like that.

Even WoW, where you're handed pretty much everything on a silver platter, couldn't make these people happy.