My idea for Crystal Tower drops.

[zdub303]

What about the case where the group just doesn't have what it takes to kill the final boss?

We're talking about CT here, that shouldn't be an issue.

[Codek]

We're talking about CT here, that shouldn't be an issue.

That's an interesting statement to make, considering the plenty of failed Ifirit and Garuda groups I've seen over the past few months. CT is still a step up from this...

[zdub303]

That's an interesting statement to make, considering the plenty of failed Ifirit and Garuda groups I've seen over the past few months. CT is still a step up from this...

Past few months though you say? Average gear level has gone up considerably since though, how many fails have you seen in the last few weeks? Most likely, if a group of 24 players can't figure out the last boss with the average gear level most of the game is at, maybe that group doesn't deserve the loot? (like in any boss situation).

24 players almost guarantees enough gear to make 'raid finder' difficulty content pretty simple I suspect.

[Codek]

Past few months though you say? Average gear level has gone up considerably since though, how many fails have you seen in the last few weeks? Most likely, if a group of 24 players can't figure out the last boss with the average gear level most of the game is at, maybe that group doesn't deserve the loot? (like in any boss situation).

24 players almost guarantees enough gear to make 'raid finder' difficulty content pretty simple I suspect.

It just gives a bad taste in my mouth thinking about a group of new players that create the coordination to complete 90%. Just to run out of time and get sucker punched with a sign that says "Get Better!" for the rewards.

Also, I don't think anyone was pleased with running CM the first time only to discover that each boss kill rewarded you with nothing (till the end). It was "tolerable" since all fights were basically a joke (not a good thing) and the story was somewhat entertaining. I wouldn't want CT to be modeled off of this philosophy going forward TBH.