Vote Kick if watching cut scene? Dev Pls Respond

[Wildsprite]

Is it going to be possible for people to initiate a vote kick for people who are watching the cut scenes? If this is going to be possible then let me know so I can just quit right now.

I will not support a game that will throw someone under the bus like this because of impatience from other people.

It because of people like you that do not care for the story that this game is ruined

did you seriously just quote someone who is against kicking for watching cutscenes as not caring for the story? really?

[Realchucky]

Funny!
You guys wanne kick ppl while in cutscenes and ruin your own dungeon run with that kick?

Think about it, if you kick a player you have to search a new one and this take time. Maybe not much time but maybe at a special time you have to wait more than 2 minutes or so. Is this what you all want? Kicking people to wait for new ones?

I dont think that there will be many ppl to use this kick feature while ppl are at cutscenes! And in other MMOs with that feature you have to be in a premade group to get a votekick done otherwise many ppl dont vote if you try to kick some1. Many times you are in a dungeon with 2 x 2 premade grp than your votekick fail!

Remember kicking players will cause you to do the dungeon longer cause of waiting for a new player!

[Avorniel]

You have to consider the fact that if it was not possible to kick people that were intentionally going AFK while watching a cutscene, then there would be more issues.

That said, as stated by Yoshida previously, we will take abuses of the system seriously and will take action against those using it for malicious purposes.

There is already issues with players watching the cutscene more so for the 8 man end story dungeon......other players just don't want to wait around,say they don't want to waist there time waiting for others had this myself a few times.

As for taking action who are we suppose to report the whole raid/group ??? so guess we need to take screen shots of the whole raid/group before we head of hmmmmm...

As Milmoko_Gemoko has stated you must know when someone is in a cutscene or not..you do right ??

[KarstenS]

We checked on this with the UI team who informed us that the kick option cannot be used until 5 minutes after the start of the dungeon.

Better would be "5 minutes after the start of the cutscene". Not every dungeon has cutszenes only at the beginning and the end of it.

[krazykrusnik]

Thank god this topic didn't start out how the title lead me to believe at first.

[Bossycow]

Problem is some ppl done want to. I have been in dungeons where the tanks obviously fated themselves to 50, cannot hold hate for anything esp on more than 1 target and tell you to %@$# off if you try to give them helpful tips or just ignore you flat out and continue to suck throughout. Some goes for dd and healers



Also not always an option if you are a dd and already have to wait up to an hr or more for a run in df, esp for story missions

For your first point, that's why I said to just leave the group...

For your second point, why isn't that an option? So you need to wait an hour, big deal. How long did it take to form a group in FFXI (and no queue, so you were literally just standing around)? As I said, what's the rush?? Do something else while you're in queue... A vote kick still doesn't seem necessary. Maybe a timer on custscene's seems more reasonable...

[Shakespeare]

So, to those who say to disable the kick button on cutscenes, what happens when someone enters a dungeon and never leaves a cut scene. What if they join the dungeon, never exit a cs and never progress the dialogue...oh wait now the run is being held up. Look, if you can't read an opening CS in 5 minutes and explain that it's your first time and you have the reading skills of a 3rd grader to your party and you are going to hold the party hostage for 15 minutes or until the duty timer hits 0, then you should get the boot.

[Kayo]

Think about it, if you kick a player you have to search a new one and this take time. Maybe not much time but maybe at a special time you have to wait more than 2 minutes or so. Is this what you all want?

These are the same players who'd rather drop group and get the penalty because they rage at people who watch cutscenes. Theyd rather wait 10-15 minutes + who knows how long in queue rather than just wait for the cutscene. Makes no sense to me other than maybe they so damned childish they feel theyre "getting them back" and leaving the group just to spite the few who want to get the full experience they paid for.

Like the spoiled brat whod rather break his toy because he cant play with it first. Man-children ... plain and simple.

[kanjitai]

Quite an extreme comparison, but an apt one nonetheless. Just because they are the majority, does not make them right.

Yeah I was kind of worried about using this analogy. I meant no offense by it. I think it shows how majority rule can lead down a very slippery slope.

[Sunaela]

I think the best thing any of us as players can do is try to help the system work as best as possible. Even though there will be those that are rude and try to kick people during the CS before bosses, the rest of us as players have the responsibility to ensure our gaming community doesn't get to be rude or nasty with each other by saying NO to kicking for that reason. We as players can see when they are in a CS, so we as players should know better than to hit YES. It's up to us to take the high road and keep the gaming community friendly. The devs can only do so much to help us. The devs have a choice, let players continue to abuse hard working players by going AFK in a dungeon...or give players some control but sadly with that we as players need to take that privilege seriously and not abuse it.