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    in response to the dev..too lazy to quote

    If all the kicked player knows is that by the time they're finished with the opening cutscene, they're out of the dungeon and told they've been kicked from it, then there would be no way to report the abuse, so no way for the GMs to take that action you're claiming will happen.[/QUOTE]

    in many situations you can't even be sure if players abused the system or not....someone is just too slow or w/e and gm decides you abuse the system, awesome
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    Quote Originally Posted by coffeeking View Post
    in response to the dev..too lazy to quote

    in many situations you can't even be sure if players abused the system or not....someone is just too slow or w/e and gm decides you abuse the system, awesome
    Realistically I don't see how GMs will be able to do anything about the vote to kick. After all you have a majority in the group saying they don't want the kicked person there. GMs, in fact most support structures, have a hard time with vague determinations. I suspect they'll shrug and say that the kicked should requeue and hope for the best.
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    As far as reporting goes, do people need to keep track of everyone they were with, or are names and their worlds automatically logged on SE's end?

    If not, maybe have a log for players to view somewhere? Many people choose the same names across several worlds, so it can be difficult knowing which is which.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seidaku View Post
    Is it going to be possible for people to initiate a vote kick for people who are watching the cut scenes?
    Even if it doesn't work while a cutscene is active I imagine it will immediately after.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hvinire View Post
    We checked on this with the UI team who informed us that the kick option cannot be used until 5 minutes after the start of the dungeon. However, even if a player is in a cutscene, the kick feature can be initiated if there are enough votes to support it. You have to consider the fact that if it was not possible to kick people that were intentionally going AFK while watching a cutscene, then there would be more issues.

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    I remember joining a CM run where 6 out of 8 left due to someone admitting it was his first time .

    Being kicked out of a Story dungeon especially is poor design when youre forced to do them and you risk losing new players at the cost of some ill mannered customer who is going to pay you in eithet case.

    There must be a functionality to prevent new players from being kicked out of a story dungeon the first time they run it.
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    Hello...all the afk player would have to do is not progress their cutscenes and now you can't kick them out because their in a "cutscenes". Be careful what you ask for. The dev team is correct.
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    Maybe they should just pause the timer if a party member is viewing a cutscene, that way there's less tension to finish the dungeon. Even then, I don't think kicking someone for watching a cutscene is that good of an idea. First time players should NOT be vulnerable to the vote kick system. The people who want this feature for that are people who, like several people have mentioned, just want to mash through the dungeon.
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    cont. from previous post:

    This was a problem in The Old Republic too, but they made sure you couldn't kick someone in a party because you were all watching the cutscene and had to wait for someone to reach the decision making bit. Operations aside since there is none of that inside the raid, but then again there is no time limit in the raid so nobody is pressured into finishing them quickly. The time limit in the dungeons is part of the reason why people try to mash through dungeons as fast as they can with little to no patience for new players, even though they and everyone else forget that they were new once too. They just feel entitled.

    Going off track aside, the vote kick should have some conditions to it. Limitations so that it is not abused too much to become an issue for everyone other than the high noble sovereign players of mmos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seidaku View Post
    Is it going to be possible for people to initiate a vote kick for people who are watching the cut scenes? If this is going to be possible then let me know so I can just quit right now.

    I will not support a game that will throw someone under the bus like this because of impatience from other people.
    It because of people like you that do not care for the story that this game is ruined
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkhaund View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Seidaku View Post
    Is it going to be possible for people to initiate a vote kick for people who are watching the cut scenes? If this is going to be possible then let me know so I can just quit right now.

    I will not support a game that will throw someone under the bus like this because of impatience from other people.
    It because of people like you that do not care for the story that this game is ruined
    did you seriously just quote someone who is against kicking for watching cutscenes as not caring for the story? really?
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