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    Player Tiggy's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stryker12 View Post
    i understand you wont get full Coil in a week, but why would i waste my time on CT when im busy running coil for higher ilvl gear? yes you can supplement your coil gear with CT gear and look a hot mess but it isnt NEEDED, it should be NEEDED, and yes i understand you have a better chance getting 80+ ilvl gear with two chances ( coil and CT) of rolling on gear but why waste time? im not a hardcore player i just yesterday got my relic and as i plan out my to do list for end game spending a night playing CT when i can be doing coil has alot more incentive.
    Due to lockouts and gear requirements you realistically can only run coil for a few hours each week. You can't possible run coil all week. So once you've gone as far as you can go you have plenty of time to run CT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggy View Post
    Due to lockouts and gear requirements you realistically can only run coil for a few hours each week. You can't possible run coil all week. So once you've gone as far as you can go you have plenty of time to run CT.
    yah but with the RNG would your chances of gears up faster running coil and using myth tomes alot faster than CT? you can only run CT till you get a drop then what? nothing lol why spend hours grinding long content when WP is right there? ( for myth tomes)
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    Yuki Ynagi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stryker12 View Post
    yah but with the RNG would your chances of gears up faster running coil and using myth tomes alot faster than CT? you can only run CT till you get a drop then what? nothing lol why spend hours grinding long content when WP is right there? ( for myth tomes)
    Even with the soon myth cap raised, you only get a piece of af in 2 weeks. In these 2 weeks, you'll already have 2 CT pieces. Go figure.
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    why would u want ilvl 80 gear vs 90? and also me mismatched ( looks wise) when your trying to progress thru coil? its been done with mismatched ilvl70-ivl90?

    not understanding me


    if you can get ilvl90 gear in or about the same amount of game time maybe just a little bit longer ( maybe one week) why would you spend time on something that does not benefit you as much as running wp and doing your coils,
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    Last edited by Stryker12; 12-11-2013 at 12:22 AM.

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    Player Bizniztyme's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stryker12 View Post
    why would u want ilvl 80 gear vs 90? and also me mismatched ( looks wise) when your trying to progress thru coil? its been done with mismatched ilvl70-ivl90?

    not understanding me


    if you can get ilvl90 gear in or about the same amount of game time maybe just a little bit longer ( maybe one week) why would you spend time on something that does not benefit you as much as running wp and doing your coils,
    People will do it for their own reasons, just because it's useless to you doesn't mean it's useless to anyone else. Stop being so narrowed minded.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yukikaze_yanagi View Post
    Even with the soon myth cap raised, you only get a piece of af in 2 weeks. In these 2 weeks, you'll already have 2 CT pieces. Go figure.
    A piece of AF in 2 weeks? Not really.

    375 x 5
    495 x 3
    825 x 2
    900 x 1

    It takes roughly 14 weeks to get 11 (12 for PLD) slots filled with ilvl90 Mythos items... or 12 weeks to fill 10 slots (if you don't get relic+1 and go for the Extreme Primal weapon). Only the body and legs take 2 weeks to get. You can get an accessorie each week and get a 495 piece (head/hands/feet) the week after (870 for both pieces on the 900 you're making).

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    Personally, I don't mind lockouts on the highest gears (ilvl.90 and up) but having nothing worth to raid in PvE, that's the problem. You will get more ilvl.90 gears per week than you'll get ilvl.80s because there are more ways to obtain the highest available pieces than there are for the "sub-high" ones.... which doesn't really make sense.
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    Last edited by IronSoup; 12-11-2013 at 01:06 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oompa Loompa
    If you are wise, you'll listen to me:
    - If you're not greedy, you will go far...
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    Quote Originally Posted by IronSoup View Post
    ....


    Personally, I don't mind lockouts on the highest gears (ilvl.90 and up) but having nothing worth to raid in PvE, that's the problem. You will get more ilvl.90 gears per week than you'll get ilvl.80s because there are more ways to obtain the highest available pieces than there are for the "sub-high" ones.... which doesn't really make sense.
    This. compound that with the fact that loot will still be based around the RNG and probably still the same % chance of dropping as coil. If you have no luck getting loot in coil how long a week are you going to farm for a specific piece of gear in CT... or how long will you static run it with you to help ur chances... then how pissed will you be if u DF it and a random gets the drop you have been farming for all week. So, farming CT every night all night for one piece of gear how does that make you less hardcore then the guys logging in monday clearing 1-5 then logging out for the week.
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    Arens Astul
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    Quote Originally Posted by Acala View Post
    So, farming CT every night all night for one piece of gear how does that make you less hardcore then the guys logging in monday clearing 1-5 then logging out for the week.
    How is logging in once a week for a few hours hardcore? That sounds entirely casual. I can't see myself paying a subscription fee for a game I log into only once a week, which leaves me wondering if it's even worth continuing my goal to level everything to 50. I mean, if they at least gave us decent pvp instead of lolarena I might feel justified continuing to pay the monthly fee. Here's hoping that housing is at least somewhat engaging.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stryker12 View Post
    yah but with the RNG would your chances of gears up faster running coil and using myth tomes alot faster than CT? you can only run CT till you get a drop then what? nothing lol why spend hours grinding long content when WP is right there? ( for myth tomes)
    yukikaze_yanagi said it best. Even with the myth cap raised it won't increase the rate I can buy decent upgrades very quickly. It still takes weeks. For example it took me three weeks to get my +1. That's three CT items I could have gotten in the meantime as the coil gave me nothing at all. That is still a net increase. Even people in the coil have a use for this gear. Only the rare few of us actually decked out in full iLv90 have no use for it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Stryker12 View Post
    why would u want ilvl 80 gear vs 90? and also me mismatched ( looks wise) when your trying to progress thru coil? its been done with mismatched ilvl70-ivl90?

    not understanding me


    if you can get ilvl90 gear in or about the same amount of game time maybe just a little bit longer ( maybe one week) why would you spend time on something that does not benefit you as much as running wp and doing your coils,
    Those of us running all content will have better gear quicker until those upgrades actually come. Why is this so hard to comprehend? It's as if your primary goal is to just hate hate hate on the new content. Despite the fact many people will gear up quicker due to it. "Omg why get a iLvl 80 piece when I might get a ilv90 next week?" Well for 1 week you were better geared than if you had waited. As far as mismatched looks. Welcome to MMOs. You get a piece and you use it till you get an upgrade. One day you hope all pieces match once you get the best gear. This is how things work. If this is a problem for you then you may be playing the wrong genre. Lastly, you're getting myth for doing the CT. That means it can completely replace some WP runs for your week. It's not like you have to choose WP runs or CT. You can do both and work on myth regardless of which content you choose.
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    Last edited by Tiggy; 12-11-2013 at 12:35 AM.

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