Vote Kick if watching cut scene? Dev Pls Respond

[Duuude007]

Seriously? In the DF?

Now, I can understand if it is a non-DF pre-made group where you sell it as a speed run and ask all players to have a minimum level of (over)gear. If someone has lied and showed up as a fresh 50, sure boot.

That would make no sense. If you boot a person in a pickup group, they cannot be replaced. DF is turned off if a party is fully formed via lfp invites.

[Brises]

So... the initial posts about this from the devs suggested that players would not be able to initiate a vote kick, that the system would do so after someone has been afk for a certain amount of time. Is this no longer going to be the case? To me, that would be the best way to do it, then the timer could be set long enough for someone to clear a cut scene in a reasonable amount of time. If you let people initiate vote kick for any reason, it will be abused. I'm certain of it.

[Duuude007]

So... the initial posts about this from the devs suggested that players would not be able to initiate a vote kick, that the system would do so after someone has been afk for a certain amount of time. Is this no longer going to be the case? To me, that would be the best way to do it, then the timer could be set long enough for someone to clear a cut scene in a reasonable amount of time. If you let people initiate vote kick for any reason, it will be abused. I'm certain of it.

They were weighing an afk auto-kick or a vote to kick, and announced they would do the former. After the last 3 weeks of additional feedback however, they apparently changed to include the latter as an option.

Latest I heard was that the feature cannot be used until the dungeon clock has progressed 5 mins, and it may have other restrictions.

[Pinworms]

So... the initial posts about this from the devs suggested that players would not be able to initiate a vote kick, that the system would do so after someone has been afk for a certain amount of time. Is this no longer going to be the case? To me, that would be the best way to do it, then the timer could be set long enough for someone to clear a cut scene in a reasonable amount of time. If you let people initiate vote kick for any reason, it will be abused. I'm certain of it.

There are ways to make your player move to keep from becoming afk...this accomplishes nothing. Leave it up to the players, it's not as bad as it seems. Dcuo has the vote to kick...it works pretty good most the time. Until a group of friends team up on someone.

[Aedra]

The system should be working perfectly enough if you use like Tera, e.g. enable a run check whether combat has end for an amount of time.

In Tera, you can't vote kick people after combat end in 2 mins.

In FF14, as there are cutscenes and such everywhere, you can just increase the time limit to ~5min ? and might as well while the loot is being rolled.

[Maero]

Sadly i always skip cutscenes because of what i heard. As a new player this was sort of a wtf moment and watching them at the inn later is not the same.
At the same time however if i see players are viewing the cutscene i do not say anything. Maybe SE should not have a timer begin while you watch the scenes as was suggested by players already. Including a "kick" option just because players want to view scenes would really loose new players, i know i would possibly leave

[Brises]

There are ways to make your player move to keep from becoming afk...this accomplishes nothing. Leave it up to the players, it's not as bad as it seems. Dcuo has the vote to kick...it works pretty good most the time. Until a group of friends team up on someone.

If it only requires a simple majority, any 5 players from the same FC can kick anyone just because they don't play the way they like. People should only be kicked because they are legitimately causing a problem, never because they "aren't good enough" or don't want to sr, etc... I would like to know what measures SE has in mind to prevent abuse of this feature.

[KraggyKor]

if you join event marked as [New Player], you should not expect kick, and if you do get kicked, you have rightful case to call GM for griefing.

Nice theory, pity it's fatally flawed .. SE haven't said this is against the 'rules' so a GM won't do anything.

As someone else said, players on their 'noob' run through should not be kickable, period!

/kick is going to cause huge amounts of griefing on NA/EU servers, it won't be seen on JP servers because they're not infested with ass-hats like we have to put up with.

[studionevermore1]

"/kick is going to cause huge amounts of griefing on NA/EU servers, it won't be seen on JP servers because they're not infested with ass-hats like we have to put up with."

This is so true. I have been in groups with some wonderful people who are patient and also knowledgeable. Then I get the "FFS Hurry up Tank I needz Lewtz" brigade.

[Pikachew]

Does it really matter what their reason is? If the majority of your group doesn't want you there they should be able to get rid of you.