CT loot lockout and the direction of this game will probably cause our FC to quit

[rappa]

Then, the objetive of the game is, leveling all class to 50, wear full darklight meanwhile one class clear Coil?.
DL MNK = 3480 philo
DL tank = 3480 philo
DL Heal = 3480 philo
DL Caster = 3480 philo
DL DRG = 3480 philo
DL jewelry tank/heal/caster = 1500x3 philo
DL MNK/DRG = 3000 philo

It's around 25k = 250 runs to AK, WP and CP. Call me crazy if i don't wanna do it.

If you want equip one class in CT, you will need 5 week(if you are lucky).

2.1 Bring a lot of content. Yes i confirm that, but, what happen if you don't get your item from CT on Monday? The item lookout "force"(i say force, but you can do it or not) to repeat CT other day, and constantly until you get one. it can be frustrating.

Try to equip the 6 specc. It's not fun.

Coil have a lookout, but once you clear, you don't need think about it. You wait to the other week to defeat the bosses and pray that enormous snake/ball/chest drop your gear. Or you have the option to use mytho to replace that item.

[FMElan]

2.1 Bring a lot of content. Yes i confirm that, but, what happen if you don't get your item from CT on Monday? The item lookout "force"(i say force, but you can do it or not) to repeat CT other day, and constantly until you get one. it can be frustrating.

Uh...huh...

Y'know that's the same deal every dungeon is, right? I mean, did you want to reach the end of Crystal Tower and have them give you all the gear on a silver platter? Seriously, if the lockout wasn't once a week, the main difference is that you would be able to run Crystal Tower 100 times in a week and fully equip all of your Jobs(if you're lucky), and then never have to touch it again.

Edit: Apparently, avoiding doing my Psych paper all day has made me cap my posts. Therefor, I will unfortunately have to ninja this one into my most recent post in this topic. My apologies, Tenku, if you don't notice this:

The problem with loot lockout is that there's no motivation to do it once you've gotten your loot for the week. That means... if you've gotten your loot on Monday and your FC mate asks for people to help on Tuesday, all they will get for a reply is cricket noises. If the gear in CT was the best gear and was for my FC member's main class, then I would definitely help even after I've gotten my piece for the week already. However.... CT gears are for alts because they aren't as good as AF+1 or Allagan.

It's basically content being added for the newer players.... not the players who has been playing since release.

First...that sounds like an awfully damn selfish attitude to me. You might want to look into a different Company if this isn't your policy. Probably somewhere more friendly. As for myself, and the members of my Free Company, we're more than willing to help each other, or our friends from other Companies grab the gear they want from the dungeons they want to get it in. That's why we all have Ifrit weapons now, and are working on getting Garuda's.

Second, please speak more for yourself here. I've been playing ARR since Beta 3 and I pre-ordered the game, yet I haven't even started to get into Darklight proper yet. There are a good number of people playing "since release" that haven't outlevelled Crystal Tower's gear yet.

[Tenku]

Uh...huh...

Y'know that's the same deal every dungeon is, right? I mean, did you want to reach the end of Crystal Tower and have them give you all the gear on a silver platter? Seriously, if the lockout wasn't once a week, the main difference is that you would be able to run Crystal Tower 100 times in a week and fully equip all of your Jobs(if you're lucky), and then never have to touch it again.

The problem with loot lockout is that there's no motivation to do it once you've gotten your loot for the week. That means... if you've gotten your loot on Monday and your FC mate asks for people to help on Tuesday, all they will get for a reply is cricket noises. If the gear in CT was the best gear and was for my FC member's main class, then I would definitely help even after I've gotten my piece for the week already. However.... CT gears are for alts because they aren't as good as AF+1 or Allagan.

It's basically content being added for the newer players.... not the players who has been playing since release.

[Tenku]

First...that sounds like an awfully damn selfish attitude to me.

Second, please speak more for yourself here. I've been playing ARR since Beta 3 and I pre-ordered the game, yet I haven't even started to get into Darklight proper yet. There are a good number of people playing "since release" that haven't outlevelled Crystal Tower's gear yet.

Selfish attitude is not wanting to help them at all. I help them in other ways such as crafting, completing anything that will help them progress on their MAIN class. I'm the FC leader and if I devoted my time to help every member in the FC to gear their alts, how do you expect me to have time to help all the other members that are trying to gear up their mains?

So because you don't put in as much time as other people or because you aren't as efficient as other people, those other people should be forced to go at your pace?