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  1. #31
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    Lecreuset's Avatar
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    Leera Myr
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    Midgardsormr
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    Archer Lv 50
    People have been complaining about other classes/jobs already. Of course they're gonna be complaining about this too
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  2. #32
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    Wyvern Heart
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    Lancer Lv 80
    Trash tread, moving on.
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  3. #33
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    Icarian's Avatar
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    Tharja Aensland
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    Ragnarok
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    Overpowered....BLM is still overpowered and 'face target'? That was also done for PvP.
    A melee has plenty of time to move to a BLM back/side considering most of their casts are 2+ seconds long, face target does nothing for that, it just points you to your target direction before casting, it doesn't rotate you while casting.

    I don't think you actually remember the full reason they changed every spec - Fyi, moving and casting isn't OP in PvE, especially back in 1.x, it is however OP in pvp.
    Of course it wasn't OP in 1.x, that's why I specifically said with 2.0 mechanics, a current BLM being able to move while casting would be OP in PvE, you would never have to stop casting, same with healing, a WHM being able to throw cures and medicas while moving? It would make any fight where the main mechanic is to dodge stuff a joke.
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  4. #34
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    Allyrion Windwalker
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    Yojimbo
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    Samurai Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Yuppiekin View Post
    It is. That's why I posted the entire interview link. It's pretty lengthy.
    Which was good of you. I was more replying to KoujiGeki -
    Quote Originally Posted by KoujiGeki View Post
    Well it already has effected pve. What a lot of 2.0 players don't know is mages use to be move and cast. Which was changed solely on the belief that it was going to be over powered in pvp. So instead of a compromise like in eqoa having a Mage at least be able to walk and cast not run they just made it you can't move even worse if some one sprint and just gets behind you before you cast your spell is cancelled.
    Since you were replying to Icarian who was replying to him. Successfully confused?
    Anyway, pvp may influence pve, but there does seem to be a good bit of independence (as you said yourself). I imagine there was a lot more involved than pvp when it comes to casting on the move. Particularly, the mage rotation would likely be much more involved if mobility wasn't its main weakness.
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  5. #35
    Player Riviere's Avatar
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    Leona Lockhart
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    Balmung
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    Lancer Lv 70
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    Well it already has effected pve. What a lot of 2.0 players don't know is mages use to be move and cast. Which was changed solely on the belief that it was going to be over powered in pvp.
    Which is why they added many spells that are instant / very fast cast so that you can cast them in situations that require mobility. This is why scathe exists on BLM, why some SMN/ACN spells are instant cast, why we have instant heals... They just didn't want EVERY spell to be cast while running around, and it's not just because of PvP.
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  7. #37
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    Thendra Cyril-gun
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    Zodiark
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    people have no idea how powerful casting on the move is as a caster, my warlock in wow had a talent that let me cast any spell on the move, for the past few tiers, warlocks as a class dominated the meter for pretty much a whole year, and its down to that 1 talent, its been redesigned from a PVE POV, and other classes can now catch upto warlocks, PVP was shafted however ;/, trust me, the amount of people that complained about warlocks DPS was immense, thats a pure PVE movement, the amount of forum threads was insane, people didnt like it at all, that no matter what they did, they could not beat a warlock in their guild. and most balance changes occur due to pve, there should never be a perfect spell or ability, everything must have a risk to it, thats PVE for you
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  8. #38
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    Ashgarth Sorel
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    Louisoix
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by KoujiGeki View Post
    Well it already has effected pve. What a lot of 2.0 players don't know is mages use to be move and cast. Which was changed solely on the belief that it was going to be over powered in pvp. So instead of a compromise like in eqoa having a Mage at least be able to walk and cast not run they just made it you can't move even worse if some one sprint and just gets behind you before you cast your spell is cancelled.
    Please, if you have absolutely no idea of what you are saying think about it before saying it.

    Mages were able to move while casting in the early 1.0 phase, and it was changed loooooooooooooong before 2.0 was even anounced. So no, it had nothing to do with PvP and more with the fact that a thaumaturge could Heal/DD/Tank/Support an entire party by himself and could even solo group oriented NMs like Dodore.
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  9. #39
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    Kouji Geki
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    Just like it will be fair when mnk can close the distance of a caster with shoulder tackle of Drg can just span spear lob or pld with shield lob and silence
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  10. #40
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    Kouji Geki
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashgarth View Post
    Please, if you have absolutely no idea of what you are saying think about it before saying it.

    Mages were able to move while casting in the early 1.0 phase, and it was changed loooooooooooooong before 2.0 was even anounced. So no, it had nothing to do with PvP and more with the fact that a thaumaturge could Heal/DD/Tank/Support an entire party by himself and could even solo group oriented NMs like Dodore.
    Except the post with yoshi say it was for pvp is in here. You are the one is horrible wrong
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