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    Enkidoh's Avatar
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    Enkidoh Roux
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    Balmung
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    Paladin Lv 90
    I disagree Sword Oath is useless - you're not in a party 24/7, and there are plenty of times where the game forces you to solo. That's when you use Sword Oath. It gives a noticeable boost to your attacks, but naturally at the expense of the added defense you would get with Shield Oath. And when you're on your own, you only have yourself to heal and hence often it's just better to get the battle through as quickly as possible rather than trying to mitigate damage.

    But yes some of the meagre cross-class abilties we get are not quite as good as they should be (like Cure, which normally would be very useful, isn't because PLD has no MND bonuses and hence the spell is very weak potency wise). PLD doesn't get the Proshell trait that CNJ gets which turns Protect into Wall, and hence subbed Protect is much weaker (only giving extra defense against physical attacks rather than physical and magic). Ditto with Raise etc etc.

    Either way, I love PLD (and GLA it stems from) - GLA was my original starting class in 1.0 (and started in Gridania too no less!), and it hooked me ever since. I just find it a fun class and Job to play as.
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    Dulek Valhinjin
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    Balmung
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Enkidoh View Post
    I disagree Sword Oath is useless - you're not in a party 24/7, and there are plenty of times where the game forces you to solo. That's when you use Sword Oath. It gives a noticeable boost to your attacks, but naturally at the expense of the added defense you would get with Shield Oath. And when you're on your own, you only have yourself to heal and hence often it's just better to get the battle through as quickly as possible rather than trying to mitigate damage.
    I can see your point for solo play, but I'm thinking of the party mechanic perspective - which in the endgame is going to be the vast majority of your playtime.

    Oh and lets not forget stunning/silence. People expect stuns even when you MT, which adds yet another dimension to playing (managing the global CD, watching the castbars, etc etc). All in all, paladin is fun for me. There's more to the job than the "rotation," there's plenty to keep us busy in fights. I'd like more dynamic cross-class but that's about it.
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    Zekron Kelberog
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    Ultros
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    Marauder Lv 60
    Sword Oath does helps. You have to learn your skills. I use it often. Once I know for sure that I have total aggro and control of the boss. I switch from Shield Oath to Sword Oath. It helps a lot just learn to play you class.
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    Pied Piper
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    Leviathan
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Crimess View Post
    Sword Oath does helps. You have to learn your skills. I use it often. Once I know for sure that I have total aggro and control of the boss. I switch from Shield Oath to Sword Oath. It helps a lot just learn to play you class.
    Either 3/10 for troll quality, or 10/10 for bafflement quality.

    Assuming you're being genuine... lolwut? This thread is clearly authored and heavily contributed to by people who know a great deal about paladin and what limited room there is for finesse play with the class. That said....

    You do realize that shield oath comes with a 20% reduction to the damage you receive.. so on.. .like nearly every fight it would be an awful idea to be in sword oath. Titan, Coil, even ifrit and garu depending on your gear (a full af pld shouldn't use sword while tanking garu for example). If I turned on sword oath while tanking twin I'd be dead within moments.
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    Tanaya Makers
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    Siren
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    Conjurer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by PiedPiper View Post
    You do realize that shield oath comes with a 20% reduction to the damage you receive.. so on.. .like nearly every fight it would be an awful idea to be in sword oath. Titan, Coil, even ifrit and garu depending on your gear (a full af pld shouldn't use sword while tanking garu for example). If I turned on sword oath while tanking twin I'd be dead within moments.
    You can get away with Sword Oath during Titan Heart phase. Otherwise yeah, if you're not doing WP/AK, I would stay in Shield Oath.

    As for the topic at hand, I don't find PLD boring, but it can get tedious. Thing is, this game has the armory system, so I can switch to Monk or go play WHM or SCH if I need a change of pace.
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    Vayne Kaonis
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    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Armorer Lv 70
    PLD is probably the most boring class I've ever played in a game to date. Literally the only time I've enjoyed it is when I can just sit there and play with cool downs in an intense fight like Caduceus or Titan during the Mountain Buster phase. You know, when things hit hard and I have to manage incoming damage with all my cooldowns. And thinking on it it's only those 2 fights. Everything else is just boring.

    I much prefer my WAR and plan to bury my PLD stuff once 2.1 hits.
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