WHM could use tweaks to stoneskin

[Schmitty]

If stoneskin were to be instant cast wouldn't that just solidify scholar as the stronger healer?

Lustrate > stoneskin (instant cast ver) > lustrate, all the while you can move and heal with Eos/Selene.

[sharazisspecial]

If stoneskin were to be instant cast wouldn't that just solidify scholar as the stronger healer?

Lustrate > stoneskin (instant cast ver) > lustrate, all the while you can move and heal with Eos/Selene.

More like adlo>stoneskin> *boss uses death sentence*>lustrate

Yes the problem with stoneskin for tank healing is its cast time. 3 seconds too long to be used as a tank migitation tool. You don't have time to pre stoneskin and time a cure 2 .Normally the boss breaks the stoneskin before using its tank killer ability.

A sch can always get adloquium off before tank killer and use lustrate to heal straight after the damage taken.

Obviously a not Relic tank is going to have a harder time keeping aggro against a +1 Relic. I've done Titan HM myself plenty and unless the Whm starts spamming Medica II during the early phases (like M2 for first stomp, seriously?) I've never seen the tank have issues holding aggro. The problem comes when you spam Medica II way too early causing massive overheal on the entire party.

Why is whm relic+1 unfairly punished with enmity and undergeared tanks compared to sch with relic +1.
Makes solo healing impossible in certain situations.
Btw you pull lots of hate with just medica too.

[Schmitty]

More like adlo>stoneskin> *boss uses death sentence*>lustrate

Ahh that makes much more sense than my proposed combination. I haven't yet faced T5 but I can see that being very strong.

[Nofacekiller]

If stoneskin were to be instant cast wouldn't that just solidify scholar as the stronger healer?

Lustrate > stoneskin (instant cast ver) > lustrate, all the while you can move and heal with Eos/Selene.

Not even close, I'm talking about WHM specific changes, meaning these changes would be strictly tied to the improved stoneskin passive that WHMs exclusively obtain.

[Schmitty]

Not even close, I'm talking about WHM specific changes, meaning these changes would be strictly tied to the improved stoneskin passive that WHMs exclusively obtain.

Would these changes include bringing to stoneskin percentage back to 10%?

I am not fully qualified to state that they are balanced as I haven't leveled my whm to 50. I do see very strong synergy between a Sch and Whm, and I know that when I heal as Sch without my trusty Whm (Sch/Sch) I miss Medica dearly.

With the current setup, it seems both sch and whm are needed in any 8 man, that itself seems the biggest sign that both classes are balanced.

Just my 2 cents.