WHM could use tweaks to stoneskin

[Sebazy]

I am pretty sure parsers don't take into account shielding which would put the scholar far above you, as well as making him functionally more useful than you dealing with death sentences and mitigating burst damage

Regen, Medica II's regen effect and stoneskin are overlooked for Whm, Succor and Adloq's shield as well as whispering dawn for EoS are missed on Sch. I suspect it's a lot closer than you might think!

I also think you chose to ignore where I noted that I apply stoneskin for Death Sentence? Is that not providing the same function as Adloq? (But with the slower cast time of course)

I suspect your agenda is stopping you from seeing the whole picture here, both Whm and Sch are beautifully balanced as things stand, both jobs have their own quirks over one another and we are certainly not even close to being in the same boat as War and Pld.

[Faelandaea]

WHM may need Cure III reworked on but everything else is perfect. I wouldn't mess with it.

[Githiun]

"WHm's aren't so hot in coil" Well that's a little harsh. I do just fine in coil. Very rarely pull threat except maybe the occasional add drop and poorly timed cure/regen.

NEVER have pulled aggro in titan..thats just crazy talk, terri-bad tank. All tank does is sit there and single target threat it.

I love my Whm!!

[Vladimus]

-WHM is not that hot for healing Coil compared to scholar and especially twintania where SCH pulls far more weight due to death sentence and other mechanics

-WHM's only % based heal has an exceedingly long CD

-WHM's mana management is extremely poor

-WHM draws at least 2x the threat of SCH

Allow me to blow your mind about healing on turn 5 as a WHM. If you begin casting a heal when the Death Sentence cast bar is at 50-70% completion, the cure will go off after the ds hits but BEFORE the healing debuff is applied. Always make sure this is a cure 2 and you will be set. Nothing is more satisfying than seeing a 3.3k crit cure 2 after a ds.

Also stoneskin is actually kind of awesome for twintania. With the 50% healing debuff, stoneskin becomes stronger than cure 2 for the same mana cost. Sure it takes a half second longer to cast, but its still very effective.

[Alkimi]

-WHM is not that hot for healing Coil compared to scholar and especially twintania where SCH pulls far more weight due to death sentence and other mechanics

-WHM's only % based heal has an exceedingly long CD

-WHM's mana management is extremely poor

-WHM draws at least 2x the threat of SCH

- WHM has just as much use as SCH in coil. For example, you're not going to heal 4 people back up from Fireball with Succor and a fairy spamming weak heals, it's not going to cut it. Every Death Sentence should have both SS and Adloqium on the tank to mitigate damage, and if you time it right (it's pretty easy to do so) you can get an "ungimped" Cure II off after Death Sentence hits.

- We have a % based "heal" on the GCD. It's called Stoneskin and it effectively heals for 18% of Max HP. Should be using it on the tank whenever it comes off while he has healing debuff on.

- My MP management is just fine and it's not as if SCH can't run into the same problem. Adloqium costs 300-odd MP to cast and it can add up.

- WHM threat isn't even a factor in anything in this game.

[CalvatE]

Allow me to blow your mind about healing on turn 5 as a WHM. If you begin casting a heal when the Death Sentence cast bar is at 50-70% completion, the cure will go off after the ds hits but BEFORE the healing debuff is applied. Always make sure this is a cure 2 and you will be set. Nothing is more satisfying than seeing a 3.3k crit cure 2 after a ds.

That crit is so satisfying when it happens. I really enjoy watching someone's HP bar go up in such a short time, a trait SCH doesn't have in comparison outside of Lustrate.

As for OP I heavily disagree on Stoneskin. I find one of its more better uses is the fact it can be used on the Raid team and DPS don't require my attention until it's been removed.

[Freakiie]

- WHM has just as much use as SCH in coil. For example, you're not going to heal 4 people back up from Fireball with Succor and a fairy spamming weak heals, it's not going to cut it. Every Death Sentence should have both SS and Adloqium on the tank to mitigate damage, and if you time it right (it's pretty easy to do so) you can get an "ungimped" Cure II off after Death Sentence hits.

4 people? You're doing it wrong :P

Remember that Fairies (And Egis) count like people for Fireball, so always use them to soak up Fireball dmg. Just saying. If you got a Smn + Sch (Or this theoretical double Sch group) and group three people up for Fireball you can just place pets together and have the targetted person run to them resulting in only one person needing heals, since the pets easily absorb those hits.

[Kal-El]

I must have missed something but when did WHMs become a second rate healer? O_o

I decided to level SCH because it seemed different and the "underdog". Where did all this "WHMs need a buff" crap come from?

Both SCH and WHM work better together than WHM/WHM or SCH/SCH. Only thing I can see maybe needing a fix is Cure III.

Haven't had a WHM steal aggro off me in Coil yet. Maybe you're not using Shroud at the right time?

[Dyssyd]

I must have missed something but when did WHMs become a second rate healer? O_o

I decided to level SCH because it seemed different and the "underdog". Where did all this "WHMs need a buff" crap come from?

Both SCH and WHM work better together than WHM/WHM or SCH/SCH. Only thing I can see maybe needing a fix is Cure III.

Haven't had a WHM steal aggro off me in Coil yet. Maybe you're not using Shroud at the right time?

Bad players like to exaggerate to reinforce their misguided views and opinions. Any good WHM knows how to manage aggro, manage mana, and keep people healed up without wasting. Clearly, this topic creator is a bad WHM.

[Chiramu]

The OP sounds like a troll post. Everything he suggested would make Stoneskin ridiculously overpowered. Stoneskin works well as it is now, it works better on Warriors than Paladins imo though.