Tanks and PvP

[harkinate]

^ Your post isn't relevant as we're getting PVP skills. Read the rest of the thread

[Claire_Pendragon]

I doubt Provoke would be used, but I can see Cover being used to "tank" in PvP.
(Along with Holmgang for WAR)

[TekkaTakeda]

^ Your post isn't relevant as we're getting PVP skills. Read the rest of the thread

Can you provide proof that PvP skills are the only available skills to be used during PvP? I've seen nothing of that other than PvP skills being an ADDITION to your skill set.

"PvP Exclusive Skills" means that the the skills are only available in PvP. It does not say that any other skills in a job/class's kit are excluded.

Also, from an interview:

"Q. Exactly what will PvP-specific skills entail?

A. There will be abilities you can use to immediately recover from sleep, bind, or other enfeeblement effects cast on you, and also passive traits that will reduce the duration of sleep effects. We will also expand these skills moving forward, as they can be used during the Front Lines PvP planned for the future."

Again, nothing about excluding the job/class's kit anywhere in that response.

[Leiron]

I have never seen anything to suggest that Tank's hit for 80% of what a BLM/MNK/DRG/BRD can do.

[Zoomie]

Imho an easy way to balance pvp would be to limit pvp to pvp skill only. Easiest way to do this would be to take a number of our current skills, adjust them for pvp, then insert their new "pvp" skills such as CC reduction etc.

There are a huge number of current pve skills that will be game breaking if allowed in pvp.

[Bixby]

Again, nothing about excluding the job/class's kit anywhere in that response.

Indeed. The 2.1 trailer even shows a Warrior using the new Holmgang against another player during the PvP section.

[Ehayte]

It looks like they are allowing all your normal skills, plus giving you PvP skills that will unbreak the game-breakers, i.e. instant recovery from sleep, probably stun resistance, heavy shake-off, etc.

Wolves Den looks like basically a training ground for frontlines. And gosh darn frontlines look so awesome and fun. I think this game is going to evolve into something extremely special if people are willing to immerse and enjoy the small things as they come.

[Vactus]

I keep hearing about front lines, but I haven't seen anything about it (I think), teach me Obi Wan.

[Zoomie]

It looks like they are allowing all your normal skills, plus giving you PvP skills that will unbreak the game-breakers, i.e. instant recovery from sleep, probably stun resistance, heavy shake-off, etc.

Even with the abilities you mentioned to avoid CC it would still be broken. We'd have to use the heavy removal every couple of seconds which will probably have an animation which means we're NOT using other skills even if its off GCD as this game includes animation lockout.

[KristianFortNox]

Guys what do you think about Shield Swipe? Pacification for 6 seconds..For example if I am fighting a WARRIOR i have a successful block I use Shield Swipe it would hurt the Warrior alot. What do you guys think?