Tanks and PvP

[Riccie]

With PvP coming in the next patch and seeing how there is a PLD PvP set, i am assuming we will have a role in PvP, but im curious how it will balanced since we hit like wet noodles compared to dps but can take more.

Will we have a role in lion's den?

[Sinaloa]

There is no class with more crowdcontroll than the paladin. If someone is actually fighting you can lock him down for at least 10 seconds with stun and collapse only further reducing his effectiveness with aoe blinds, taking the damage of your mates... And taunt will have some effect there for sure either. Be it forced attack on you ore reduced damage on others. It will be a great class for pvp.

[Zoomie]

And taunt will have some effect there for sure either. Be it forced attack on you ore reduced damage on others. It will be a great class for pvp.

Except taunt doesn't exists in this game. If you're referring to provoke, not a taunt, then it has zero duration and applies no spell or effect to the target at all. Kinda don't think that's gonna be the case.

I would imagine they're going to have to make huge balance changes for pvp to work. Sprint currently will break the game, locking someone down for 10s is just insane, and casters and bards will rule the world given the current skill sets.

[Vactus]

Have you seen the new images? We're getting a whole new skill set.

[Riccie]

^ No i have not?!?!?!

That sounds interesting

[harkinate]

Yes, all the classes will get "PvP Skills" that do not overlap with the PvE skills. Actually makes me slightly interested in the PvP here. I can't wait to see the toolkit that SCH gets, but both PLD and WAR also interest me from a PvP perspective.

[Ehayte]

I'm excited to see that as well - does anyone have a link to the armor sets and the news regarding the new skill sets for more detail?

[Bixby]

From the Lodestone's page on PvP:

It looks like the PvP abilities might be GC-specific.

[harkinate]

And that you're limited to 10 abilities! Cool.

[TekkaTakeda]

Tanks do not hit like wet noodles. You're aware that tanks are capable of at least 80% of a dedicated DPS role's DPS, right? As previously noted, nobody else has as much hard CC as the tanks do (PLD specifically... WAR barely has a Stun and Root). In PvE a tank usually can't fully DPS as an OT because their highest DPS comes from their Enmity combos. This is negated in PvP as enmity shouldn't have any effect.

Tanks will stance dance constantly in PvP especially PLDs between Oaths. WAR can utilize Defiance for sponge and additional healing.

WAR provides a second way to apply 50% healing reduction if you don't have an ACN base class in your comp as well as the 2.1 changes to Storm's Path which will reduce the targets DPS output.

PLD has great support in the way of SS and Cover and tanks in general have great peeling abilities (the hard CC mentioned above).

All in all, if you look at any truly viable compositions, you will almost always have a tank in groups of 4 or more from the history of all MMOs.

Every class will have a good role that they will fill. Don't worry.