Loot lockouts should be based on Job

[DoctorPepper]

You don't see how burnt out you'll get on content if you're able to do it ~9 times per week?

If anything, prior tier content should have job-based loot lockouts (i.e. CT), but not current tier (i.e. BC).

How does getting burnt out have anything to do with this? Nobody is forcing people to play their other jobs but right now the armory system is completely pointless. Personally I would have a lot more fun if I had something to do besides craft/gather and grind 4 mans for philo once I'm capped, even moreso now that all my crafts are finished to 50.

[Borfin]

How does getting burnt out have anything to do with this? Nobody is forcing people to play their other jobs

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Nobody forcing anyone doesn't prevent people from trying to stay competitive. Having the option to have all of the classes geared will make SOME people feel like they have to do it, and in some cases they will.

I have more experience in WoW than any other MMO and this is comparable, so I'll use it again: You run into the same problem you had when 10 man/25 man separate lockouts were introduced in ToC - 4 different lockouts, one on 10m normal, one 10m heroic, 25m normal and 25m heroic. Guilds would run all four because they could in an attempt to gear up as many people/alts as fast as they could to keep their options open.

And as a tank at that time, I can tell you - I initially enjoyed ToC, by the end of it, I loathed the instance and to this day refuse to run it on any of my characters. ToC is widely regarded as one of the biggest flops of raid content introduced in the history of WoW and this is one of the largest reasons why.

If you run a SMN, can you honestly say your FC won't ask you to gear up your SCH so you can heal when their regular SCH is absent? What if you have a 50 PLD you've never touched? If you're in a competitive group, of course they will.

This many loot lockouts for current content is a bad idea. I like it for gearing alts in content that's already outdated, but when it's the best of the best stuff available... No, no, no, just no. I don't want BC turning into another ToC that I despise.

[DoctorPepper]

Nobody forcing anyone doesn't prevent people from trying to stay competitive. Having the option to have all of the classes geared will make SOME people feel like they have to do it, and in some cases they will.

So you're trying to tell me that those people who want to stay competitive aren't already grinding wp non-stop for DL gear? I have several people on my flist who have all battle classes at 50 and all they do is finish coil/cap myth on their main and then do literally nothing but grind wp for DL on their other jobs and unlock new relics, some have every relic already. Making lockouts based on your job rather than based on your character would do nothing but expand the options since rather than mindlessly grind wp you can change jobs and enjoy literally all the content endgame has to offer rather than a single dungeon.