Loot lockouts should be based on Job

[SeleneSinclair]

I personally liked the raid finder in World of Warcraft. You could loot off a boss once per week. Therefore, each individual boss' loot table could be different. You could raid as much as you wanted, but only get one piece per boss per lockout. Then, if Crystal Tower had 4 bosses you could have 4 per week.

Either or would work better.

[DoctorPepper]

I personally liked the raid finder in World of Warcraft. You could loot off a boss once per week. Therefore, each individual boss' loot table could be different. You could raid as much as you wanted, but only get one piece per boss per lockout. Then, if Crystal Tower had 4 bosses you could have 4 per week.

Either or would work better.

The thing is, in World of Warcraft, if you wanted to play another class you had to change characters. This game boasts their armory system and the fact that you don't have to change characters to play another job but in reality you do anyways. World of Warcraft may have had lockouts but since people had to use a different character to play another class the lockouts were not effecting them in the same manner.

[Zumi]

Big difference in WoW and most other MMOs is characters can only be 1 class. You pick your class when making the character and they are stuck with it for life. You want to play a different class you made an alt, which came with its own set of raid lockouts. Now in FFXIV your alts are all on the same character which only has 1 set of raid lockouts to use.

The thing is leveling other jobs on the same character is a lot easier then doing it on separate characters due to only having to do 1 set of missions and quests to unlock everything. In games like WoW you had to do all those quests and stuff over for your alt to level it. It takes around 3 weeks to 1 month to cap a character in WoW vs like 2-3 days in FFXIV.

[Tiraelina]

Big difference in WoW and most other MMOs is characters can only be 1 class. You pick your class when making the character and they are stuck with it for life. You want to play a different class you made an alt, which came with its own set of raid lockouts. Now in FFXIV your alts are all on the same character which only has 1 set of raid lockouts to use.

The thing is leveling other jobs on the same character is a lot easier then doing it on separate characters due to only having to do 1 set of missions and quests to unlock everything. In games like WoW you had to do all those quests and stuff over for your alt to level it. It takes around 3 weeks to 1 month to cap a character in WoW vs like 2-3 days in FFXIV.

It really doesn't take that long in WoW. Even without hierlooms its easy to go 1-90 in a week or less.

There really needs to be more flexibility with the armoury system.

[Yashnaheen]

Regardless of how ARR compares to WoW... Which is entirely irrelevant..

You have more play time. You have more 50s. You can't get ahead on any one job, but you can gear more jobs. As you play more.

win/win

[Borfin]

Regardless of how ARR compares to WoW... Which is entirely irrelevant..

It's not. It's nearly identical in a LOT of ways, including the decisions devs are making with loot lockouts (and what some players, like OP are seeking) and the consequences of those decisions, which is what we're discussing here.

X game did something similar. These were the consequences of that decision in X game, and why that would be a bad decision to make in Y (same genre, even plays nearly identically!) game.

You have more play time. You have more 50s. You can't get ahead on any one job, but you can gear more jobs. As you play more.

Which is why it would be good for gearing alts in lower-tier content (CT) but bad for burning people out in current content (BC). FFXIV hasn't been around long enough for raider burnout to be widespread but I assure you, raiders do burn out.

[TawdryClay]

This seems like a bad idea to me. Not only would it make it much faster to gear each class if we could run on all the different jobs but it would wear out the content so fast. That is my 2 cents anyway.

[Wyyote]

Is anyone else upset that no DoL gear drops out of coil or CT. We demand more! I must have my gathering jobs geared in Allagan!

[DoctorMog]

Hint taken SE. I'll play anything but FFXIV Tuesday through Sunday.

Don't worry though, Monday's are still yours.

We still need to get our coil runs under an hour. And I guess I'll do a CT run for an item once a week.

Nono, it's cool, we're still friends. But you might want to take a look at what you're doing to the community.

[Budi]

..and remove greed option in some dungeons. So you can only get the items if you play as the class. Gearing your BLM while playing WHM feels weird.