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    Quote Originally Posted by Yellow View Post
    Hey Vespi babe.

    Weren't you posting about how we shouldn't get all of this stuff?

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    Oh that. I was probably just doing my impersonation of everyone on this forum who just regurgitates verbatim every excuse given in producers letters with their own personal embellishment as to why it means we can't even have BASIC FEATURES.

    The fact is, SE shouldn't have to prioritise on the development of basic features. This isn't a third world country. Resources cannot really be so scarce as to validate such excuses. And if so, then why are we still bothering to play an evidently abandoned game?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vesperia View Post
    Oh that. I was probably just doing my impersonation of everyone on this forum who just regurgitates verbatim every excuse given in producers letters with their own personal embellishment as to why it means we can't even have BASIC FEATURES.
    Yeah, right. You're just a flip-flopper.

    This thread proves it: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...BELIEVE-IN-YOU
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonic_the_Hedgehog View Post
    Yeah, right. You're just a flip-flopper.

    This thread proves it: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...BELIEVE-IN-YOU
    Well complaining obviously hasn't worked, so I figured I would try flattery and motivational speaking.

    You can't blame me for trying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vesperia View Post
    Well complaining obviously hasn't worked, so I figured I would try flattery and motivational speaking.

    You can't blame me for trying.
    You just seem to come across as an unrelenting idiot. Do you honestly think SE cares about the opinion of the individual? It's about group ideas, and general themes. Trying to coerce them does nothing but make you look stupid.

    You and a number of other members of the forum need to stop trying to be "forum leaders" and recognise that what you want and believe isn't at the forefront of the community.

    Edit: They've already said that mounts, possibly jumping and other features are coming by the end of the Summer, what do you want? Stamping your feet and saying "NOW NOW NOW" isn't doing shit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sephr View Post
    You just seem to come across as an unrelenting idiot. Do you honestly think SE cares about the opinion of the individual? It's about group ideas, and general themes. Trying to coerce them does nothing but make you look stupid.

    You and a number of other members of the forum need to stop trying to be "forum leaders" and recognise that what you want and believe isn't at the forefront of the community.

    Edit: They've already said that mounts, possibly jumping and other features are coming by the end of the Summer, what do you want? Stamping your feet and saying "NOW NOW NOW" isn't doing shit.
    It was merely some nice words of encouragement. You don't need to jump down my throat about it or anything. Gosh, the one time I try to be nice!

    And why would I bother coercing the devs. It is not the devs' minds that need changing. You said yourself that it is the collective opinion that matters most. Hence why I make so many threads discussing the erroneous opinions of the collective.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vesperia View Post
    It was merely some nice words of encouragement. You don't need to jump down my throat about it or anything. Gosh, the one time I try to be nice!

    And why would I bother coercing the devs. It is not the devs' minds that need changing. You said yourself that it is the collective opinion that matters most. Hence why I make so many threads discussing the erroneous opinions of the collective.
    To be fair, unrelenting idiot was a bit harsh and immature <_<

    That said, if you want to convince the community jump should come before endgame content, you're pretty much SOL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vesperia View Post
    Well complaining obviously hasn't worked, so I figured I would try flattery and motivational speaking.

    You can't blame me for trying.
    So complaining didn't work (by your own admission)...so...why are you back to complaining? Does not compute.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rentahamster View Post
    EXAMPLE - take a look at this game (First Person Shooter) that is currently in development.
    FPS games are the king of quick, make one during your lunch break and still have time to eat your sandwich, games and should not be compared to any other game as far as development time is concerned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vesperia View Post
    The fact is, SE shouldn't have to prioritise on the development of basic features. This isn't a third world country. Resources cannot really be so scarce as to validate such excuses. And if so, then why are we still bothering to play an evidently abandoned game?
    Resources aren't scarce, there is simply more to do than in most games. Can you really not see that? Which games redo their combat and class systems? This isn't rocket science.

    You can only answer for yourself. I bet most people here aren't playing the game as long as it hasn't got enough value in it. They are simply waiting while living their lives normally. It doesn't take much effort to do so.

    In what reality do game developers prioritise the implementation of basic features? Answer me that.
    In the reality where the people taking advantage of said basic features are in an extremely small minority when compared to the people who would benefit more from a rapid implementation of core feature rehauls and faster implementation of basic features afterwards.

    The reality is it's easier to rehaul the core systems and then implement basic features as opposed to implementing basic features and then rehauling the core.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Betelgeuzah View Post
    Resources aren't scarce, there is simply more to do than in most games. Can you really not see that? Which games redo their combat and class systems? This isn't rocket science.

    You can only answer for yourself. I bet most people here aren't playing the game as long as it hasn't got enough value in it. They are simply waiting while living their lives normally. It doesn't take much effort to do so.
    How can either of us say for certain what the reality is. All I can do is comment on what's apparent. The fact that they are prioritising such elementary features like User Interface, Jump, Mounts, and the list goes on suggests that they do not have the requisite number of staff to attain their goals within a workable time period.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vesperia View Post
    How can either of us say for certain what the reality is. All I can do is comment on what's apparent. The fact that they are prioritising such elementary features like User Interface, Jump, Mounts, and the list goes on suggests that they do not have the requisite number of staff to attain their goals within a workable time period.
    What's apparent is that when you have a solid core, implementing more features better is much faster and more efficient.

    What is also apparent is that making sure the remaining tiny playerbase is enjoying themselves asap has a lower priority than making sure that the game as a whole will be improved as fast as possible for the potential future audience- the audience that SE is working for as we speak. <30k playerbase does not justify these kind of efforts to make sure the game stays afloat. It only justifies closing the shop and moving on.

    You don't know what this magical "workable time period" is. Maybe they are not fast enough. Maybe they are. You are once again making up shit. It may not be fast enough for you. Unfortunately SE is taking that risk for the sake of their future audience, the audience that doesn't give a damn when all these features were implemented as long as they're there when they start playing.

    It's not like you'll move on. That's such a hilarious thought.
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