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  1. #1
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    Yenn's Avatar
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    Yenn Sylph
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    Arcanist Lv 80

    What's supposed to hold us over to 2.2?

    I'm really curious if 2.1 has anything that's intended to hold those of us who have been running Bahamut's Coil for months over to 2.2.

    As it stands, virtually everyone who has cleared Bahamut's Coil only logs in for 40 minutes each week, and then logs off for the rest of the week. We've run it so many times that we have people with two full i90 jobs.
    As far as I can tell, 2.1 brings absolutely nothing to keep us attracted to the game; we severely out-gear everything that's being added and it provides no form of progression for our characters.

    Is there any plan to provide us with hold over content, or are we just going to be left to get bored and stop logging on?
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    Zyxt Fair
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    Tonberry
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    Summoner Lv 90
    That's the whole point of a subscription? If you have nothing left to do that interests you till the next major patch, unsubscribe, wait for the next patch, if it interests you then, subscribe again.

    What's the big fuss about all this really?
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    Jin Sama
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    Goldsmith Lv 50
    If we already know what's coming in 2.1, what's there to be curious about?

    If you feel 2.1 will not do you any good, I say stop paying for the game until 2.2, if you feel that will offer you something worth playing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OPneedNerfs View Post
    That's the whole point of a subscription? If you have nothing left to do that interests you till the next major patch, unsubscribe, wait for the next patch, if it interests you then, subscribe again.

    What's the big fuss about all this really?
    Well, if Square Enix wants our money, that's a problem for them.
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    Luna Clear
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    PvP or gear an alt up. Make new characters to run a 2nd coil group, which is what my group did and it's actually pretty fun to go in with a full group of people on new classes in AK/DL/crafted gear and experience the challenge of the fights again.

    Truth of the matter is there are more people that will be kept interested in the content 2.1 brings than people who will be bored of it.
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    Tirion Crey
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    God I'm tired of people who complain about "no content" for them that matters...but on the other hand they can't just take a break for 3 freaking months from the game cause apparently they don't have anything else in life to keep them occupied, so they make demands to SE to give them what they want so they don't have to face reality, which is...if there is nothing for you to do...don't play. Simple as that. I barely play even half as much as I did on release...am I bored in the game right now? Yes, obviously...do I feel the need to tell everyone my sob story cause I don't know what to do with myself...no...and also...I have other things to do...I log on to the game mostly to talk with some in-game friends or do just some random stuff...that's ok with me...I don't need to play 5h every evening just to feel there is something to do in the game. It's gonna get better with a few content patches...I don't need to get burned out already.

    Also the topic title..."What's supposed to hold US over to 2.2"...

    Despite the fact that based on content cleared I am among those so called "us" people...doesn't change the fact that majority of people is not among those "us" people...
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    Last edited by TirionCrey; 12-05-2013 at 07:07 PM.

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    The point that everyone in this thread is missing is that once 2.2 brings new contents, we have to rely on enough players in our groups to come back to the game.
    Sure, I can come back for 2.2, but what if very few other progressed players rejoin the game? The result is having nobody good to participate in the new content with.
    Instead, if I want to do the new content, I have to spend god knows how long teaching groups of sub-par players how to clear old content. There is nothing less fun than this.

    I honestly can't think of a single MMORPG that maintained any level of success or a strong user base after alienating it's more dedicated players.
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    Last edited by Yenn; 12-05-2013 at 07:47 PM.

  8. #8
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    Drak Thar
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Patch 2.1 should be renamed.
    "A realm awoken" doesn't fit, something like "A realm that should have been in the release" might.
    FFXIV is not a sandbox, there is *NOTHING* to do outside of dungeons, and dungeons follow progression.

    Treasure hunt? To get crafting mats, right? Oh, wait, crafting is useless since SE is "afraid of RMT".
    Beastman dailies? To gain philo tomes, which you gain anyway while farming your myth cap. Cool, to the trash can it goes.
    Hard mode Haukke/Copper, plus Sirius? Run once, never visit again. 10-15 minute WP runs still work better efficiency-wise.
    Crystal Tower for vanity? Whoa, it's almost not as ugly as the Amdapor set.
    EM primals for an ilvl 90 weapon which everyone already has (relic).
    PvP - for those who like the idea of PvP combat in a game that is in no way suited for PvP and has a godawful netcode. Yay!

    Sure, you can *convince* yourself you can do this and that (level alts comes to mind) to kill time, but at the end of the day, we are paying THEM money to keep us entertained. We shouldn't be looking for an excuse to keep playing, it's not how it works in theme park MMOs.
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    Player Lithera's Avatar
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    Randolont Althoreaux
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    Midgardsormr
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    Lancer Lv 60
    Getting tired of these threads...I only know of two FCs on my server that have cleared Turn 5 and probably only 1 MAYBE 2 of their static groups probably did it so we're talking...maybe 32-48 people out of how many thousand? SE is not going to cater to the high end minority. This game looks to be following FFXI's style of patch progression so every other patch will see expansion on the top tier content. FFXI Has done this pretty much since RoZ. With any luck they'll expedite 2.2 to ensure it's ready for PS4 beta so we'll have it in two months and you guys will have your new Coil turns. Of course you'll likely burn through those in two weeks and bitch about the lockout and lack of shit to do again.
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    Bobbin Threadbare
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    Masamune
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Xenobius View Post
    Hard mode Haukke/Copper, plus Sirius? Run once, never visit again. 10-15 minute WP runs still work better efficiency-wise.
    You don't even know how those dungeon fares compared with AK/WP. For all we know, it might even gave fresh options and perhaps faster means than WP. For one thing, farming WP daily has became mind-numbing effort. lol
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