The fans will be here when it's all said and done

[Arale]

That's entirely subjective. For some people "replaying" the game by leveling a new class is content and doing any endgame dungeon/raid for the 100th time just for loot isn't (more so here that every class/job has a different story and you can play them all with the same character), while for others it's the opposite. Both stances are valid.

I'd beg to differ. Doing the same thing on a different character isn't content because there's no difference in what's available to you. You'd have to go out of your way to do select bits of whats available to vary it enough and call it content. Even if you blew through the story, got to 50 and be CM/P, the remaining dungeons are fairly shallow, as are the quests, and the FATE's are even more hollow then that. I've done a lot of the 1.0 quests AND the 2.0 quests. If those are content, then I fear for the longevity of this game. x.x

[Kezy_Kaatapoh]

Getting to 50 in two weeks is not rushing. I don't know what game you're playing, but you can get you first character to 50 by doing the main+side quests (and reading all the text) in two weeks. This game is designed to be at 50, I don't know why they don't just give you a lvl 50 job to start.

Every MMO lets you run every class if you want, and some people do, and some people don't. Not everyone is going to level up every base class and job. That is not content.

You cannot get to level 50 doing the main and side quests in two weeks if you're only playing 2 hours a day. It's impossible if you read all of the text. You know how I know that? Because that's exactly what I currently do. And no, the game isn't "designed to be at 50." I'm currently going through easily 40-50 plus hours of content in the main story and side quests. That is a LOT of stuff to do. To throw that away so easily is unfair to the devs.

And you missed what I wrote. I said the game lets you run every class as one character. I don't know of another MMO that lets you do that without making an alt.

[Dauntlesslotus]

i'm never leaving... /boldstare neevvverr....

[Dranosi]

Its isnt impossible, i read the main story quest. Skip worhtless side quests that offer nothing "not even story value to the lore", grind fate and got to 50 in about 2week. Then i grind philtome, cause there isnt any thing else to do, got my darklight set in 1week, grind for myth weekly cap, do Coil. That is all THERE IS, A normal cassual player that were to play this game, they would only lv one character as main. Other people can say they like to lv alt to MILK more content of this game, but that is where you just failed this arguement on contents. THIS GAME LACK CONTENT, IT IS DOWN RIGHT BORING after you have reach the top so easily. Cant even lv up? Boring items set; cant mix and match to experiment on statistic, NO DAILY EVENTS, No weekly events "Other MMORPG have events that you can only attend if u shown up at a certain time, form a pty and competewith other pty to get the reward at the end". FF14ARR Lack sooooo much element of an MMORPG

[KariArisu]

I like Final Fantasy. I hate only being able to play once a week for any benefit.
I don't see how this thread makes any sense at all.

Anyone who has 10 hours a week to play the game will realize how limiting endgame is right now.
2.1 introduces more content with week lockouts.

[KariArisu]

You cannot get to level 50 doing the main and side quests in two weeks if you're only playing 2 hours a day. It's impossible if you read all of the text. You know how I know that? Because that's exactly what I currently do. And no, the game isn't "designed to be at 50." I'm currently going through easily 40-50 plus hours of content in the main story and side quests. That is a LOT of stuff to do. To throw that away so easily is unfair to the devs.

And you missed what I wrote. I said the game lets you run every class as one character. I don't know of another MMO that lets you do that without making an alt.

Even Yoshi said the game starts at endgame. Anything you can do 40-50 is not significant. Main story? That's to get you to 50 and give you an entertaining story. Side quests? To get you to 50.
Content for MMORPGs is all about end game. This game only requires 1 day a week to finish endgame for the week, which is dumb. We want to play more.

[Yshnal]

I'd beg to differ. Doing the same thing on a different character isn't content because there's no difference in what's available to you. You'd have to go out of your way to do select bits of whats available to vary it enough and call it content. Even if you blew through the story, got to 50 and be CM/P, the remaining dungeons are fairly shallow, as are the quests, and the FATE's are even more hollow then that. I've done a lot of the 1.0 quests AND the 2.0 quests. If those are content, then I fear for the longevity of this game. x.x

You missed the point. What you mean is that that's not new content. What I mean is that, until new raids, etc. are introduced, doing any endgame dungeon or raid for loot (as we've always done in a lot of MMOs, including the almighty WoW) can be considered for some the same thing as replaying the game up to level 50. In any of those situations you have nothing new to do, you just replay the same content that you've already done until more new content (more quests and/or levels, or new dungeons/raids) is released, be it to get new shinies or to have another class at maxlevel.

Some people like to do the infinite dungeon farming (AKA carrot in the stick), some others prefer to level another class/job or a whole new character, and some others like both (I do here in FFXIV as I can use my character for them all). And they're all right, as they play the game as they enjoy it. Saying that any of those is not actual content because you like one more than the other is just a matter of opinion, and not a fact.

[Arale]

Saying that any of those is not actual content because you like one more than the other is just a matter of opinion, and not a fact.

Right, that's my opinion, since I didn't state anywhere in my post that it wasn't or that what I said was 'fact'.

[KyoKunChan]

Game boring, run BC for 2months get no drops and keep doing AK.

[Yshnal]

Right, that's my opinion, since I didn't state anywhere in my post that it wasn't or that what I said was 'fact'.

Then it's subjective and both stances are valid, thus you don't differ with what I said originally