WHM 2nd ability focus?

[dragonflyseksparade]

First off, I'm extremely curious as to what fight you're spamming spells in. Unless you're carrying a very undergeared tank, I don't see a fight in a game that requires that.

I'm am curious what your strategy is in Turn 4 phase 5-6 if you're not spamming heals. How do you stand idle 90% of the time? Why don't you solo heal every encounter if you are standing idle so much? If you're standing idle that often, maybe the best secondary stat for WHMs will become accuracy so they can DPS with all that spare time. /sarcasm.

There are many instances where you will be required to spam heals for awhile - especially during progression as people are learning an instance. Acting arrogant by stating that spamming heals is never required in this game isn't really an argument at all, you're just being condescending.

In general, I agree with your comments about MP regeneration, but MP really shouldn't ever be an issue unless you are spamming aoe heals - but you just said that you never spam heals so I don't really understand your argument there either. Even with just a few i90 pieces you'll have enough MP for any instance in the game.

[TimeZero]

First off, I'm extremely curious as to what fight you're spamming spells in. That's far more important than HPS in a game that has zero spammy encounters.

You're doing 1 or several of the following:

1- You're trolling, try harder please
2- You've never done any speed runs
3- You've never done Binding Coil of Bahamut

I'd take Spell Speed over anything else all day and every day. Healing for +100 is useless if your heal is late and God knows these "oh shit" moments happen.

[whoopeeragon]

3- You've never done Binding Coil of Bahamut

I'd take Spell Speed over anything else all day and every day. Healing for +100 is useless if your heal is late and God knows these "oh shit" moments happen.

3. is definitely false because even in his portrait preview, you can see Allagan gear...

And likewise, spamming heals at 1.8secs compared to 1.9secs is useless if your heals can't keep up with the damage being done. We're taking the most situational of all bad scenarios, so there's no point in using them as an argument.

I like my nuclear heals, tbh. Yes, there are times where I am required to spam heals, but never times where I wished I needed more speed. I've learnt to properly precast, and if its really needed, presence of mind.

Determination for me wins in its ability to scale well with all of our abilities. However, I know other WHMs who focus spell speed, who are equally as capable. So its personal preference in my books.

[Alkimi]

I'm am curious what your strategy is in Turn 4 phase 5-6 if you're not spamming heals. How do you stand idle 90% of the time? Why don't you solo heal every encounter if you are standing idle so much? If you're standing idle that often, maybe the best secondary stat for WHMs will become accuracy so they can DPS with all that spare time. /sarcasm.

Even the 2 dreadnought phase in Turn 4 isn't too bad if your tank is smart with his CDs. Ours generally uses Hallowed as soon as he has both of them and then Sentinel once that's off. Once they're off it can get a little spammy but I can still afford to throw a Cure II on the off tank now and again.

Regarding this SS vs Det thing, I'd love to have the choice tbh. Our healer drops in coil are so bad that I'm forced to make do with mythology gear anyway. I don't want to gimp myself and the rest of the party by sitting in darklight and hoping "maybe this week".

[Aphrini]

This particular subject garners such passion, I am one of those few that likes spell speed a lot. Either way and it has been mentioned here already either path will take you to the top play for fun. You know what I loved about FFXI and this game is it was never about that parse crap, that is WOW mentality thing and though if you like that kind of thing I say go for it let's just play the damn game and have fun. This 50hp here .3 seconds there crap is so trivial when compared to how well you play your job as a whm. In the end if your skill is only ok then all the gear is the world wont save your tank, or your party. I love my i90 Red and Whites and have every intention to keep sporting them because that's what I like.

[Nathanmg]

I've not really "prioritised" anything myself (barring my vanya head where ive chucked det+sp into), just been grabbing whatever ilvl90 I can get hold of.

my T4 experience has been somewhat limited so I've not had many "spam heal" situations yet have had a fair amount of idle time where I've been switching to cleric stance and getting some dps in (not really needed but I do it in T1+2 and in my titan sell runs).

I really quite enjoy whm dps tbh, as limited as it may be, so I've gone for det just for an overall heal+dmg boost.

Does sps affect dot timers btw? Considering I rarely get more time than enough to chuck up aero 1+2 and lightning 1 before switching back to heal (and then reapplying dots when I switch back) I can see sps not really helping me on this side of things.

[Menae]

I've not really "prioritised" anything myself (barring my vanya head where ive chucked det+sp into), just been grabbing whatever ilvl90 I can get hold of.

my T4 experience has been somewhat limited so I've not had many "spam heal" situations yet have had a fair amount of idle time where I've been switching to cleric stance and getting some dps in (not really needed but I do it in T1+2 and in my titan sell runs).

I really quite enjoy whm dps tbh, as limited as it may be, so I've gone for det just for an overall heal+dmg boost.

Does sps affect dot timers btw? Considering I rarely get more time than enough to chuck up aero 1+2 and lightning 1 before switching back to heal (and then reapplying dots when I switch back) I can see sps not really helping me on this side of things.

I don't THINK it does, but considering how much you need for it to have a real impact on cast times, I can't imagine it would do much for them (or Regen) either.

[Eriane]

Does sps affect dot timers btw? Considering I rarely get more time than enough to chuck up aero 1+2 and lightning 1 before switching back to heal (and then reapplying dots when I switch back) I can see sps not really helping me on this side of things.

As far as i know spell speed does not affect dots or hots, but crit and det do so it does seem odd to me that there is a secondary stat that is worthless to dot classes...

[dragonflyseksparade]

As far as i know spell speed does not affect dots or hots, but crit and det do so it does seem odd to me that there is a secondary stat that is worthless to dot classes...

It isn't worthless to DOT classes. It reduces the GCD on a DOT cast just like any other hard cast spell. The gain you recieve is based on total dot damage per GCD time. Not saying that I think SS is the best secondary stat for DPS classes, but I would not call it worthless.

[Eriane]

It isn't worthless to DOT classes. It reduces the GCD on a DOT cast just like any other hard cast spell. The gain you recieve is based on total dot damage per GCD time. Not saying that I think SS is the best secondary stat for DPS classes, but I would not call it worthless.

So a SCH casts dots that lasts 30,24, and 18 sec.... that SCH just saved a fraction of a second on 3 casts and now for the remainder of the dot duration is getting zero benefit from spell speed. I would call that worthless but thats just me. Now the spell speed would affect ruin spam sure, but crit and det affect ruin spam and the potency/chance to crit of the dots.