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  1. #881
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cairdeas View Post
    Oddly. Kain could use Axes and Swords. :P
    This is different than an ancient single player RPG. Get over the fact that you are going to be locked in. It's going to happen and all your idea does is make the system stupidly complex. Changing weapons = changing classes. Also, assigning many different weapon types to one class or job completely cuts the uniqueness of any future classes or jobs.

    Wouldn't it be better to save weapons to future potential of new classes leading into jobs than trying to make them into an extension of your nostalgia towards previous installments in the series? Think about it.
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  2. #882
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cairdeas View Post
    We know jobs would unlock by class 1-1. We're talking about using the weapons on the job once its unlocked. Because most jobs are not locked to one weapon in past games.
    Quote Originally Posted by Triairy View Post
    皆さん、こんばんは。

    1クラスにつき武器種が1系統しかないという点について、開発チームに確認しましたが、現時点では具体的な追加の予定はないとのことでした。まずは、バトル改修にてクラスの特徴を出し、クラス間のバランスをとっていくことを最優先して目指していくとのことでした。

    ただ、要望などあればまとめたうえで開発チームと協議していきますので、引き続きご意見をお寄せください。
    The above is a dev reply to a thread in the Japanese forums about having 1 weapon for 1 class being boring. according to the reply (the part in bold), there is no plans atm for adding additional weapons per class. It goes on to talking about balancing being their first priority and so on.
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    Last edited by Shura; 06-02-2011 at 07:56 AM.

  3. #883
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bayohne View Post
    Spoke to the dev. team to try and wrangle some more details regarding the upcoming job system. The current thinking is to have one job for one class. So for example, if you are a gladiator, the job you could unlock would be paladin, etc. Right now, we can't give any further details about the possibility of having multiple jobs per class.

    To try and stave off the coming flood of "So if gladiator becomes paladin, then what will xyz class unlock?" You'll have to stay tuned for more details in the future!
    Why do you guys ignore the best bits of ffxi in favour of utterly untested new ideas? You're bombing everyday. Stick to what you learned and improve the graphics. Money spinner & happy customers. Done.

    Make the job system like ffxi and you'll get your fan base back
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shura View Post
    The above is a dev reply to a thread in the Japanese forums about having 1 weapon for 1 class being boring. according to the reply, there is no plans atm for adding additional weapons.
    Can you tighten up that translation? 1 weapon per class is obvious, because that's the basic premise of the armoury system. We're talking about weapons per job in this thread, which is a completely different issue.
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  5. #885
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shura View Post
    The above is a dev reply to a thread in the Japanese forums about having 1 weapon for 1 class being boring. according to the reply, there is no plans atm for adding additional weapons. Though it does not say it will never happen.
    And again, this is why i give up. The one thing that made ffxi better than wow was the job system. SE, by ignoring that mechanic, have killed their usp. Stupid. Very very stupid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lerris View Post
    Can you tighten up that translation? 1 weapon per class is obvious, because that's the basic premise of the armoury system. We're talking about weapons per job in this thread, which is a completely different issue.
    Sorry, that reply does not include any information regarding jobs, or if weather weapon type changes when jobs are equipped. Its a short reply that simply talks about class. I did fix up my original post though, i did not do a direct word to word translation since Yoshi-P asked ppl not to and my japanese is not top class. I was hoping the post would help answer some questions regarding classes. Gonna need to wait for more info on Jobs to learn about how jobs effect weapons. For all we know, jobs might in fact allow you to change weapons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shura View Post
    Sorry, that reply does not include any information regarding jobs, or if weather weapon type changes when jobs are equipped. Its a short reply that simply talks about class. I did fix up my original post though, i did not do a direct word to word translation since Yoshi-P asked ppl not to and my japanese is not top class. I was hoping the post would help answer some questions regarding classes. Gonna need to wait for more info on Jobs to learn about how jobs effect weapons. For all we know, jobs might in fact allow you to change weapons.
    Thanks for the clarification. I believe that post at the very least indicates that greatswords will not be 2H gladiator weapons as some of us have speculated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kurokawa View Post
    Why do you guys ignore the best bits of ffxi in favour of utterly untested new ideas? You're bombing everyday. Stick to what you learned and improve the graphics. Money spinner & happy customers. Done.

    Make the job system like ffxi and you'll get your fan base back
    Umm, no .

    Thanks though! The last thing we need is stuff pulled 'directly' from XI, especially the Main/Sub job system. I'll even take a promotion system (which is what this Job system is turning out to look like) over that style.

    And this way, we can keep the hope that there will 'at least' be multiple jobs unlockable per class. Not across class, as the devs are quickly making clear, but multiple for each class.
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    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/1556132 ~ Lynia Celeste

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    Ideally each class should eventually have 3 roles available: DD, tank and support, whether this is accomplished by mixing-and-matching jobs to classes or by having a unique set of jobs for each class. Personally, I'd like to see multiple jobs per class, as an archer tank should play very differently than an archer tank.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lerris View Post
    Which has what to do with dragons? Did you read the point I was answering?

    Dragoon in III only used spears.
    Cid Highwind only used spears.
    Freya only used spears.

    Precedent means little in this series, and probably works against your argument since the cases of dragoon characters wielding only spears outnumbers the cases of dragoon characters wielding multiple weapons.
    Dragoon in III could use daggers and swords.
    Cid Highwind was a set character you had no control over his weapons or his job (Which while is described as dragoon by most people is never said in game as such)
    And Freya was using a Racial Weapon All the Burmecians used Spears.

    And no It doesnt.

    Dragoon in FFIII can use Daggers, swords and Spears.
    Dragoon in FFIV can use Swords, Axes, and Spears
    Dragoon in FFV can use all kinds of weapons
    Dragoon in FFT, FFTA, FFTA2, can use all kinds of weapons
    Dragoon in FFXI can use all kinds of weapons.
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    I have to thank Square-Enix for the amazing job they have done recreating Final Fantasy XIV from Scratch. Especially the inclusion of Missing Genders which we petitioned for in good faith. This was proof to us players that the Developers are truly Sympathetic to our requests and that being honest and vocal can pay off with the amazing characters we have who are Female Roegadyn, Male Miqote, and Female Highlanders. Thank You SE, Thank You Community Team, Thank You Yoshi-P.

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