Is 1.18 the final straw?

[Starlord]

why do people have to resort to labelling everyone as a troll

Labeling, and actually being a troll are two different things, and im tired of it to be quite honest, Im on here for FFXIV, and the people the support it, and trying to make the game work out, not for Game bashers that have nothing to do but to make other games look like crap.

[Azurus]

Labeling, and actually being a troll are two different things, and im tired of it to be quite honest, Im on here for FFXIV, and the people the support it, and trying to make the game work out, not for Game bashers that have nothing to do but to make other games look like crap.

well my friend besides this one your last 2 points had nopthing to do with anything and were troll garbage posts in my definition, and im sorry you log on to this games forum everyday and expect to see nothing but rainbows and sunshine. Honestly what you expect is a wet dream at best. the people that left this game are in a vast majority to the people who stick around and actually enjoy it, this doesnt count those who stick around to see where it goes, and this game will not survive just off of you alone. You need to realise that since you like this game so much you should be counting your lucky stars the game was made by SE cause of it was anyone else the plug woulda been pulled a while ago. And if things dont turn around, which i think the OP does a good thing by showing SE just where everyones lines are drawn, this game still has a possibility to die. SO if you dont like threads showing dislike for the game, dont read them or post on them and go play the game you enjoy.

[Starlord]

well my friend besides this one your last 2 points had nopthing to do with anything and were troll garbage posts in my definition, and im sorry you log on to this games forum everyday and expect to see nothing but rainbows and sunshine. Honestly what you expect is a wet dream at best. the people that left this game are in a vast majority to the people who stick around and actually enjoy it, this doesnt count those who stick around to see where it goes, and this game will not survive just off of you alone. You need to realise that since you like this game so much you should be counting your lucky stars the game was made by SE cause of it was anyone else the plug woulda been pulled a while ago. And if things dont turn around, which i think the OP does a good thing by showing SE just where everyones lines are drawn, this game still has a possibility to die. SO if you dont like threads showing dislike for the game, dont read them or post on them and go play the game you enjoy.

I do enjoy the game, but I come on here to see peoples ideas and point of views not "bashing the game" comments theirs a huge difference I'm sorry. and no actually, because I played and beat threw FFXIII and I never played it again because it wasn't " an up to snuff again" to do a rerun of it.

FFXI I played for 7 years best MMO, Am I still playing that now? no because its starting to get old now, I log on every now in then but I dont play like I used too.

Apparently people like you just don't see that alot of things has happen to them with the Earthquake and all, and the switching of the new dev teams. But Quite frankly, I just don't see you or the people that have responses like the one I quoted, people want thing now now now now now but what you and other people don't "Realize" is that they are hard working, and the game has improved alot ( not content wise I give ya all that). However, those updates, are to patch up a "broken game" that Tanaka and his crew left behind for Yoshi-P and his team.

You think its easy fixing a broken game? its not hard.. Its a Numbered FF game, I and several other people would want them to trash their Flagship title! The Series that Saved their company from bankruptcy.

Threads showing dislikes of the game? (which most of the time leads to bashing the game down!) don't you have better things to do then to trash games you don't like?

[Azurus]

I do enjoy the game, but I come on here to see peoples ideas and point of views not "bashing the game" comments theirs a huge difference I'm sorry. and no actually, because I played and beat threw FFXIII and I never played it again because it wasn't " an up to snuff again" to do a rerun of it.

FFXI I played for 7 years best MMO, Am I still playing that now? no because its starting to get old now, I log on every now in then but I dont play like I used too.

Apparently people like you just don't see that alot of things has happen to them with the Earthquake and all, and the switching of the new dev teams. But Quite frankly, I just don't see you or the people that have responses like the one I quoted, people want thing now now now now now but what you and other people don't "Realize" is that they are hard working, and the game has improved alot ( not content wise I give ya all that). However, those updates, are to patch up a "broken game" that Tanaka and his crew left behind for Yoshi-P and his team.

You think its easy fixing a broken game? its not hard.. Its a Numbered FF game, I and several other people would want them to trash their Flagship title! The Series that Saved their company from bankruptcy.

Threads showing dislikes of the game? (which most of the time leads to bashing the game down!) don't you have better things to do then to trash games you don't like?

Well man all those yous you are throwing around i am going to assume are not directed at me, as i am one of the people that does not really bash the game as i probably want it to succeed more then anybody, i just have this odd ability of seeing both sides of the coin and pisses me off when people act like its all just peaches and cream on this game. Im glad this game is coming around and ive been keeping my friends up to date on the changes as they happen so i can do my part to bring players back once the game is in order, however the complaint threads dont bother me as there are often good points of view that come out of alot of them.
You get awfully defensive and i have no idea why, then you are going to attack me even though you have a clear misunderstanding on my actual position on this game. Im telling you if you dont like these threads dont read them, simple as that. people like you, if i can throw around the personally attacking yous for a bit, do this game a disservice in the long run as you are just as blind as the trolls, and you blissfully ignore the fact that in reality you are damn close to not having a game at all. Ask games like tabula rasa and apb and a slew of others how their mmo went. Any other company and you would not have a game right now so instead of blindly white knighting i suggest you remember that fact. Do what you need to do and support this game and ignore these forums, because i'm sure nothing you like is going to come out of them.

[Starlord]

Well man all those yous you are throwing around i am going to assume are not directed at me, as i am one of the people that does not really bash the game as i probably want it to succeed more then anybody, i just have this odd ability of seeing both sides of the coin and pisses me off when people act like its all just peaches and cream on this game. Im glad this game is coming around and ive been keeping my friends up to date on the changes as they happen so i can do my part to bring players back once the game is in order, however the complaint threads dont bother me as there are often good points of view that come out of alot of them.
You get awfully defensive and i have no idea why, then you are going to attack me even though you have a clear misunderstanding on my actual position on this game. Im telling you if you dont like these threads dont read them, simple as that. people like you, if i can throw around the personally attacking yous for a bit, do this game a disservice in the long run as you are just as blind as the trolls, and you blissfully ignore the fact that in reality you are damn close to not having a game at all. Ask games like tabula rasa and apb and a slew of others how their mmo went. Any other company and you would not have a game right now so instead of blindly white knighting i suggest you remember that fact. Do what you need to do and support this game and ignore these forums, because i'm sure nothing you like is going to come out of them.

I said my peace, I'm not going to argue with you ( no im not going to keep going on about it because its pointless and get gets both of us no where in this conversation other than bashing each other up.

I don't ignore the forums because I do see alot of people give Positive and negatives views on the game and how they want to improve it. What I don't like when I see here and their saying " SE sucks" or "FFXIV sucks" type posts in between all the actual ideas and thoughts.

I'm sorry for directing it at you, I'm just tired of the people who are saying things like that when there are really awesome ideas that SE can take, and it get bunched up with peoples hate of the game.

Anyways Im ending this conversation and again I'm sorry for pointing the finger at you when it wasn't you that dislikes it.

[Physic]

I do enjoy the game, but I come on here to see peoples ideas and point of views not "bashing the game" comments theirs a huge difference I'm sorry. and no actually, because I played and beat threw FFXIII and I never played it again because it wasn't " an up to snuff again" to do a rerun of it.

FFXI I played for 7 years best MMO, Am I still playing that now? no because its starting to get old now, I log on every now in then but I dont play like I used too.

Apparently people like you just don't see that alot of things has happen to them with the Earthquake and all, and the switching of the new dev teams. But Quite frankly, I just don't see you or the people that have responses like the one I quoted, people want thing now now now now now but what you and other people don't "Realize" is that they are hard working, and the game has improved alot ( not content wise I give ya all that). However, those updates, are to patch up a "broken game" that Tanaka and his crew left behind for Yoshi-P and his team.

You think its easy fixing a broken game? its not hard.. Its a Numbered FF game, I and several other people would want them to trash their Flagship title! The Series that Saved their company from bankruptcy.

Threads showing dislikes of the game? (which most of the time leads to bashing the game down!) don't you have better things to do then to trash games you don't like?

being blindy optimistic helps no one either, you need a realistic and varied view to understand whats going on, what you should notice here is people who have supported and enjoyed the game, getting tired of it and dissappointed, this is a real problem, if even diehards cant last, then what about average people? It takes time to do things and problems is all well and good, but there is a limit to peoples patience, different people have different limits,

8 months in, new team or no, people want to see something tangible. its not crazyness, its not trolling, its telling SE that they are reaching the point when people start to lose a connection to the game.

Its possible that the next update could add enough to keep people interested and connected, thats what the op is saying, or hoping for, some are saying that soon after they may get on track, but most people are just letting SE know, that now is the time, if they dont start adding real content, that makes people want to play the game soon, and put things on the table as coming soon that people are interested in, then they will lose more and more people, even when the game costs nothing.