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  1. #21
    Player
    Duelle's Avatar
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    Duelle Urelle
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    Diabolos
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Warthain View Post
    sorry to say but if silence which is required in coil doesnt count has CC, well then you should l2p or at least learn the definition of cc.
    CC is crowd control. Sleep, Repose, incapacitates and fears count as CC (the last one being questionable as it depends on length).

    Silence and Pacification in this game are faux interrupts. I call them fake because interrupts are not supposed to suffer from diminishing returns and are supposed to be in a category separate from stuns and blanket "shut down" statuses (stun, pacification, silence).
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    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
    * Design ideas:
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  2. #22
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    Axidrain's Avatar
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    Axidrain Fy
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    Tonberry
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    Archer Lv 50
    just got in a titan where a monk was doing 280 dps :| and these guys are getting a 10% damage buff in 2.1? :O
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  3. #23
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    Astarica's Avatar
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    Olan Durai
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Goldsmith Lv 50
    Utilty in this game is pretty bogus anyway. This is pretty much the only MMORPG I can think of where CC effects even work on bosses and that seems to be only done so that you've to pick 2 classes that can silence for High Voltage. If you want bogus utility, I'm sure it's easy to come up with an equally bogus encounter that requires Freeze or Apocostasis, so I'm not too worried about the utility or lack there of on a BLM, because nobody really has any utility to begin with as the game is designed with gimmick encounters to give the illusion of utility.
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  4. #24
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    Viore's Avatar
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    Viore Loyalar
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    Shiva
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Gamemako View Post
    BLM: STR/DEX reduction (Virus), Slow (Lethargy)useless in coil, Bind (Freeze, Blizzard2)useless in coil, Heavy (Lethargy, Blizzard)useless in coil, Elemental damage resistance (Apocatastasis)useless in coil, Heal (Physick)rly? i have ~4500hp and physick heals 200hp at max..., Damage reduction on hit (Eye for an Eye)
    DRG: Slow (Feint, Haymaker), Stun (Leg Sweep, Spineshatter), Piercing damage increase (Disembowel, additional damage limited to BRD and other DRG), 5% healing increase (Mantra)

    //EDIT: Forgot one.
    anything else?
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  5. #25
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    Kicoe's Avatar
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    Kicoe Vashai
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    Cerberus
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    Dragoon Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Viore View Post
    anything else?
    Not sure if serious; depending on how far you got in Coil Apocatastasis and Lethargy sure have their uses.
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  6. #26
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    Pinworms's Avatar
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    Wiggly Pinworms
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    Diabolos
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Gamemako View Post



    I assume you mean buffs/debuffs. How about Lethargy? Virus? Sleep? Bind? Apocatastasis? Not to mention the ability to use Physick in a pinch?
    Yoshi said it not me.
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  7. #27
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    Naelle's Avatar
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    Character
    Robin Gunn
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 80
    I can't believe X is getting a buff! Y is going to be completely useless and nobody will bring us to coil anymore! Y should stay the best in every way. If it gets nerfed I'm just going to level X.

    You can fill in the variables and you have 80% of these forums lately.

    Nobody is going to stop playing BLM just because they don't win the e-peen parse war anymore. Bard needs to deal less damage considering every single coil group practically requires one. The damage dealing jobs should be balanced around utility not just some DPS number on a parser.
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  8. #28
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    Viore's Avatar
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    Viore Loyalar
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    Shiva
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Kicoe View Post
    Not sure if serious; depending on how far you got in Coil Apocatastasis and Lethargy sure have their uses.
    t5. on what boss do u need lethargy? Ö_Ö


    edit: and its not bout e-pen. its about melees (with all their stuns, interrupts, silences ect) goin to do same dmg as blms (with well...no stuns, no interrupts, no silences (but ya...show me a boss u can sleep, pls))
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  9. #29
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    Ricky's Avatar
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    Character
    Azran Hayat
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    Excalibur
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    Marauder Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by SirSaber View Post
    Why did they nerf Bard then if melee will get a boost anyway? T_T
    1 Bard per group is basically always going to be a given thanks to Blunt Arrow and songs, you have it easy
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  10. #30
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    Ricky's Avatar
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    Azran Hayat
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    Excalibur
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    Marauder Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Viore View Post
    t5. on what boss do u need lethargy? Ö_Ö


    edit: and its not bout e-pen. its about melees (with all their stuns, interrupts, silences ect) goin to do same dmg as blms (with well...no stuns, no interrupts, no silences (but ya...show me a boss u can sleep, pls))
    Apocatastasis is good to use if someone has death weakness and is going to be hit by a fireball, that's a real specific circumstance though

    Lethargy is great on Dread Knights on Twintania
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