So sick of prioritisation

[Richard]

The point of NM implementation in a game like this isn't to be fun.
why? Because killing the same mob is only fun for so long.

The point of NMs is to give players something to do which takes time and effort but has good rewards.
These NMs are short-term oriented fun. They will entertain someone for 1 or 2 days or maybe 2 or 3 "NM runs". After that spamming 1 and killing the same thing 40 times without any drops gets boring.
FFXI's NMs on the other hand created a long-term challenge. You had to spend time camping them, some gave cool titles which lets you show off, many gave really good equip which could then be sold, many were camped by multiple ppl so it was a "challenge". etc.

An MMO needs NMs like ffxi's. Sure they could be changed and tweaked a little. But FFXIV's NMs are essentially useless.


It has to do with the style of the game.

FFXI was not grinding-based. Yes you had to grind one or 2 jobs but they were all unique, required parties and teamwork, etc. But there were also tons of things to do outside of grinding. You could spend hours camping an nm, you could do interesting quests that take you to hard to reach places not many people go, you could actually farm stuff that had value, etc.

FFXIV is grind central. Instead of creating things to do outside of grinding, it minimizes anything non-grindable (ex nms) so you get done with them fast and can go back to grinding. This is probably going to be the main reason why XIV will never be a huge success. Unless they drastically change things.

couldn't have said it better myself. +1

[Aver]

The point of NM implementation in a game like this isn't to be fun.
why? Because killing the same mob is only fun for so long.

The point of NMs is to give players something to do which takes time and effort but has good rewards.
These NMs are short-term oriented fun. They will entertain someone for 1 or 2 days or maybe 2 or 3 "NM runs". After that spamming 1 and killing the same thing 40 times without any drops gets boring.
FFXI's NMs on the other hand created a long-term challenge. You had to spend time camping them, some gave cool titles which lets you show off, many gave really good equip which could then be sold, many were camped by multiple ppl so it was a "challenge". etc.

An MMO needs NMs like ffxi's. Sure they could be changed and tweaked a little. But FFXIV's NMs are essentially useless.

Disagree. I loathed FFXI's lottery pop/compete for 1 NM spawn that could spawn in 1 hour or not spawn for 5 because the window got screwed/random conditions+weather (I'm looking at you, noble mold), or had what seemed to be a 99% droprate on what you DIDN'T want (I'm looking at you, Xolotl, no I don't want your f#*$ing hat).

There needs to be a middle ground between (formerly) rmt-camped, (but still) annoying to get nms like VE, Hoo Mjuu, Mee Degi, etc. and the literal 1 minute pops of this game. And don't even get me started on HNMs.

At least in this game, everyone gets the chance to kill the damn things, so that's a plus I guess.

[Betelgeuzah]

The point being that we still got neither sufficient content nor companies nor dungeons nor a level cap raise nor a job system.
Guess that one backfired.

The point being that we get all that much earlier than if the workload was split even further.

Just because the features are not implemented in the live servers doesn't mean it's not (far) in development.

[Sephr]

Yawn, these threads are getting boring.

I wonder how many people read the last letter from yoshi, which pretty clearly listed all the features coming before the end of summer. That's the next 3 months, guyz. Probably 1-3 updates.

[Elexia]

Low priority =/= Never come.

Have you ever thought about why some things are high priority and some not?

People like to ignore it even though every development studio today uses priorities to get things done.

[Cairdeas]

This is the best thread ever you guys.

HNMS? What HNMS? HNMS wont show up until the level cap changes. Everything we are fighting now will be considered "Low Game" to "Mid Game" in about a year.

[Picoman]

Read the OP, didnt bother with posts so:

Remember we voted for this.
Some of the 'want' threads are a bit ridiculous tbh.
Imagine all of the content that is waiting on these battle fixes being completed.

[viion]

I like how you guys think you just press one button and stuff is codded and perfect, but ill state this one more time like i did in another thread.

I was @ the UFTG (Ultimate fighting game tournament) here in Chicago where i live, so the dev team for Mortal Kombat was there some players gather around and ask some questions. One question was when are you guys gonna add the button config to the menu so he responds (this might surprise some of you trolls) While a button Config may seem simple to implement it would take us an while to implement something like that even tho it seems like a small task which it is not.

So i could only imagine how long it would take to rebuild and recode shit in this game.

Nobody see's it like that. What they see is another MMO who are able to do it, and if some other MMO cannot because one reason or another then they must be a bad developer since it cannot be to difficult if other studios manage to do it. And I agree with this.

[Anty]

Sorry you feel that way you are free to leave.

you are free to leave or go back to wow are the most useless posts ever and don't / won't help the game in any way. These kinda posts are the real trollish posts imho.
I still don't know why the white-knight-born still feel offended by critics towards SE?
are you all holding major shares of the company?... i don't get it...

[Nikita]

I think the OP is more annoyed with the self-proclaimed rulers of these forums posting their own threads, and defending their own ideas, followed by them going into anyone else's thread and telling them that there is no time for their ideas. I see this alot, people getting castrated for posting their own ideas for improvements and the people that perform those castrations have their own threads, telling us that they know what is high priority. To them, high priority ideas are the ones that they themselves come up with.