Concerns about the PvP and why it might not succeed, though I want it to very much!

[Kaelon79]

Anonymity is the source of bad behavior as there are no consequences for how one acts. The internet age has led to this and even promoted it in the form of trolling making one feel better than others by their actions. Everyone wants to point at SE for trying to prevent the pointless harassment from happening in the first place when the real solution is these people should have higher morals than to act that way in the first place. If you are doing something that would get you punched int he face if done in person... it is probably a big sign that you shouldn't be doing it.

One thing the older MMO's had due to the inability to change servers or cross server group for content was a strong sense of community. When someone acted out of line that person became blacklisted and the community banished them for their own actions. I wish this would return...

[yuixjfa]

woah woah woah, that FRESH MEAT thing is still gonna be implemented?

oh dear.

[Sephirah]

I dunno why everyone has their panties in a twist about this PvP.

This is... wait for it... yup... you guessed it... FINAL... FREAKING....FANTASY.

Final Fantasy has ALWAYS been a PvE oriented game, honestly, they could lock us in place 4v4, standing in a line, letting us watch timers for our next move. You don't HAVE to have twitch-combat for fun and enthralling PvP.

They are adding PvP for FUN, that's IT. If you're expecting something that can "compete" with PvP like LoL, or CoD, WoW, or any other game that has put a big focus on PvP, then you're just getting your hopes up for nothing.

Personally, all the footage I've seen of the PvP looks fun, I don't need to circle jump like a monkey to have "fun" or "good" PvP.

Contrary to popular belief, you CAN use melee short range abilities on someone while they're running away, as long as you keep the gap close enough. So what does this mean? It simply means PvP in this game will FEEL different, than other games, big woop.

And are you really upset that the opposing team will be called Fresh Meat? All this means is you won't be able to make macros to target a specific person, which honestly, is a GOOD thing.

[Alkimi]

Seriously this is one of the reasons why I will never PVP in this game.... SE's already taking the FFXI rout with PVP. This^^ is just beyond stupid, if people want to be cry babies and turn there names off let them but stop stepping on the feet of players who are over the age of 10 and can actually handle w/e comes there way grief wise. I'm not gonna go QQing to a GM because dem feel's got hurt and someone said I was bad... grow up or gtfo.

It's not a new thing. Even a game like Aion, which is hugely focused on PvP, still gives opponents anonymous names in arena matches. What the reasoning behind it is I can't say. You also can't use any chat functions except party and legion, everything else is disabled (most likely to cut out the trash talking) and I'll imagine it will be the same here.

[Borfin]

Oh look. Another thread predicting the doom of PvP. As usual it's filled with people who don't read the info coming from developers so they don't realize the game is going to be balanced separately from PvE. As such half of the complaints will naturally be about certain abilities being overpowered. Hurrah for needing another one of these instead of posting in one of the dozen other similar threads.

So what does this high-and-mighty poster have to say about the 0.3 sec positioning delay, again?

[Alhanelem]

Doesn't that kind of defeat the purpose of the whole anonymous thing? Unless it's supposed to simply stop harassment in battle...?

Not exactly, because except for people on your server, you're not likely to see those people again so you have no way of harassing them.

[Aicasia]

It's reasonable to be against the 'Fresh Meat' thing, but holy crap guys. Really? Is that how you're going to act? Should people take this thread as an accurate indication of what the PvP community is going to be like? Grow up, you're making yourselves look like giant red baboon asses.

Obviously the entire PvP community is not like that, but we all know just how well a vocal minority can ruin everything for the majority.

[Rereyl]

Not exactly, because except for people on your server, you're not likely to see those people again so you have no way of harassing them.

But that further makes me question the entire point of the fresh meat thing.

Though, if WoW was any indication, the more toxic players won't be deterred to make a character and 'verbally' harass someone (unless they're using the basic account).

[frostmagemari]

But that further makes me question the entire point of the fresh meat thing.

Though, if WoW was any indication, the more toxic players won't be deterred to make a character and 'verbally' harass someone (unless they're using the basic account).

I remember when i was PvP'ing in WoW half a year back.. after an arena match someone tried to harass me because they won and thought i sucked... i came up with an amazing counter-argument for them, it was called /ignore. They surprisingly, didn't want to take the time to create a new character on the server and continue trash talking.. if I didn't know better, i would think that his trolling became rather un-fun once he realized that /ignore was an effortless thing to do.

You think Square would realize how easy it was, and how rare you would actually have to do it...

The more toxic players also won't bother hunting people down to harass them, they'll trash talk in the streets of Ul'Dah about how great they are and that the server has nothing but scrubs, with exception to himself of course.

[Aaron_T]

So two of your reasons why it won't work are gear and inexperience?
Okay....
Not everyone has latency issues you know.

Is this really your reason?