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  1. #31
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    ReviiLagoon's Avatar
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    Revii Lagoon
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    Arcanist Lv 62
    Quote Originally Posted by ZeromusF View Post
    Lastly, as a SCH -- I've found that I've messed up MOST when I've gotten too distracted applying DOTS too much. Priorities 1, 2 and 3 are healing, healing and more healing. If you start applying your std DOT rotation on a large pull ( 4 - 5 mobs) and the tank a huge burst of damage, you may have lost critical seconds to get him back in a safe range.
    That's my 2 cents..
    That is what Lustrate is for. It's actually kind of a joke between my friends and myself, I don't actually heal very much anymore in dungeons. My time is better spent doing DPS, and leaving the healing to my pet / lustrate unless we pull 5-7 enemies at once, then I dot up, bane, then heal. Even on WP / AK bosses, I don't heal except to succor or pre-shield Everybody's grudge. I've been in dungeons where I have had to hop out of cleric stance twice....Because lustrate is the primary way I heal outside my pet, and it isn't affected by cleric stance.
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  2. #32
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    Elianna's Avatar
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    Ellianna Lightbringer
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    [QUOTE=sharazisspecial;1267242]Switch to whm for coil. They outclass sch in high damage taken situations due to their much higher numbers and reliable heals.

    is this a joke? I have no issues in coils to turn 5 and I prefer my scholar over my whm any day of the week. Since I have a whm at the side of me its happy days. the only situation whm ever outclasses a scholar is in fast aoe damage cycles and even then if the scholar is prepared with soil, rouse, illumination, dawn, virus, lustrate and succor and is using them correctly along with st heals its not so bad on current content.


    telling the op to play whm for coils is a pure troll.

    the scholar has two heals for every whm cast (it has a fairy, u can control who it heals), and it is a supremely powerful single target healer when used correctly, and can then boost as needed with lustrate (off gcd )
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    op, eye for an eye is very good actually m8 it has nothing to do with ur tank doing more damage and everything to do with him taking 10% less damage when it procs onto a mob that is hitting him. great for multiple mobs since it can proc on them all and excellent for bosses such as the dreadnaughts in coils turn 4.

    Enhanced virus m8, so many scholars seem to forget it and its one of the best skills we have imho. 15% reduction to all mainstats, the is a significant damage reduction. try it out on tumulet in titan hm or the dreadnaughts in coils 4.
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  3. #33
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    Sohlom Cabano
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    Sargatanas
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    Thank you for the post. Very informative.

    I would simply like to share my experience which slightly differientiate from yours Dijana.

    As I leveled up SCH, I have found myself in dungeons (I am guilty of dungeon grinding instead of FATE grinding hehehe :P), that I did not use Eos during trash mobs. Eos aggroed WAY TOO MUCH.

    Generally, I have thus only used Eos during boss fight, and Selene anywhere/everywhere else.

    As anyone done the same?

    If not, I would like to point out that is it a viable option

    And that 30% faster spell is a welcome little boost.
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  4. #34
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    Taerra Elyssia
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    As I leveled up SCH, I have found myself in dungeons (I am guilty of dungeon grinding instead of FATE grinding hehehe :P), that I did not use Eos during trash mobs. Eos aggroed WAY TOO MUCH.
    I'm about to do this despite the lower xp, my brain is melting doing WHM fates in coerthas for the fourth time ...
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  5. #35
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    Sohlom Cabano
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taerra View Post
    I'm about to do this despite the lower xp, my brain is melting doing WHM fates in coerthas for the fourth time ...
    Well it is still good exp (as are Levequest also). NOT THE MOST EFFICIENT WAY TO GET EXP does not mean sucky exp For example, at lvl 35+, I could get 80k per run. Which is good in my book.

    As well as picking some nifty pieces of equipment.

    And having no down time at all.

    AND getting a good grasp of the job requirement in a party situation.

    All of this to say, I second your idea of DF grinding lol
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  6. #36
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    Yui Sasaki
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeromusF View Post
    *snip*Lastly, as a SCH -- I've found that I've messed up MOST when I've gotten too distracted applying DOTS too much. Priorities 1, 2 and 3 are healing, healing and more healing. If you start applying your std DOT rotation on a large pull ( 4 - 5 mobs) and the tank a huge burst of damage, you may have lost critical seconds to get him back in a safe range.
    Eos (or Selene - whichever you prefer) can heal against 3 mobs even with "weak" gear, later on she can heal up to 5-6 (with rouse if needed).

    BTT:

    You've written a nice guide. I'd some statements about secondary stats. In my opinion the secondary stat importance goes as follows:

    Crit > DTR > (Piety) > Spellspeed

    The reasoning is because a critical Adloq applies a shield that absorbs the doubled value of the crit

    [Example]: Adloq - non crit = 650 | It applies a shield with a value of 650.
    Adloq - crit = 1100 | It applies a shield with a value of 2200.
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    Sheapy Exylius
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    Quote Originally Posted by sharazisspecial View Post
    Switch to whm for coil. They outclass sch in high damage taken situations due to their much higher numbers and reliable heals.
    False, most people agree SCH > WHM even in coil. ESPECIALLY turn 5 where our lustrates aren't effected by Infirmity at all.
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  8. #38
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    Asriel Blackthorne
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    Sorry, probably not the right place to ask, but is it intended that sacred soil and shadow fire can't be up at the same time?
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  9. #39
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    Kyomi Dreamweaver
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheapy View Post
    False, most people agree SCH > WHM even in coil. ESPECIALLY turn 5 where our lustrates aren't effected by Infirmity at all.
    Don't agree. It depends on the fight and your tank, not to mention in the encounter. However, the type of tank can make it much harder since a WAR tank is much easier to heal for a SCH than a WHM.
    So, don't generalize. Both Jobs are amazing at what they do but it seems for coil, the best combo really is WHM/SCH because they just fit so nicely together mechanics wise.
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  10. #40
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyomih View Post
    Don't agree. It depends on the fight and your tank, not to mention in the encounter. However, the type of tank can make it much harder since a WAR tank is much easier to heal for a SCH than a WHM.
    So, don't generalize. Both Jobs are amazing at what they do but it seems for coil, the best combo really is WHM/SCH because they just fit so nicely together mechanics wise.
    You do realize that being a SCH or WHM doesn't effect the efficacy of heals on a WAR right? No matter what, all forms of healing are currently better on a PLD than a WAR even with full stacks of Wrath. Simply because mitigation effects such as Shield Oath are applied prior to damage is actually applied to shields.
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