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    Kyomih's Avatar
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    Kyomi Dreamweaver
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    Phoenix
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    Arcanist Lv 63
    Quote Originally Posted by Sheapy View Post
    False, most people agree SCH > WHM even in coil. ESPECIALLY turn 5 where our lustrates aren't effected by Infirmity at all.
    Don't agree. It depends on the fight and your tank, not to mention in the encounter. However, the type of tank can make it much harder since a WAR tank is much easier to heal for a SCH than a WHM.
    So, don't generalize. Both Jobs are amazing at what they do but it seems for coil, the best combo really is WHM/SCH because they just fit so nicely together mechanics wise.
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    Sheapy Exylius
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    Gilgamesh
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    Blacksmith Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Kyomih View Post
    Don't agree. It depends on the fight and your tank, not to mention in the encounter. However, the type of tank can make it much harder since a WAR tank is much easier to heal for a SCH than a WHM.
    So, don't generalize. Both Jobs are amazing at what they do but it seems for coil, the best combo really is WHM/SCH because they just fit so nicely together mechanics wise.
    You do realize that being a SCH or WHM doesn't effect the efficacy of heals on a WAR right? No matter what, all forms of healing are currently better on a PLD than a WAR even with full stacks of Wrath. Simply because mitigation effects such as Shield Oath are applied prior to damage is actually applied to shields.
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    Kyomi Dreamweaver
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheapy View Post
    You do realize that being a SCH or WHM doesn't effect the efficacy of heals on a WAR right? No matter what, all forms of healing are currently better on a PLD than a WAR even with full stacks of Wrath. Simply because mitigation effects such as Shield Oath are applied prior to damage is actually applied to shields.
    I think we are trying to say the same with different words. I just don't agree that SCH > WHM can be generalized like that. If you say SCH/WHM over WHM/WHM I totally agree but not with SCH/WHM over SCH/SCH for example.
    And since you can't solo heal Coil (yet) saying SCH > WHM for coil is just not right.
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    Vanny Schmeler
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    Ragnarok
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Thanks for this, i've never healed before in a game so i'm green as they come, I'll take all the help I can get, i'm finding it tough going at mo tbh.

    Do you guys keep adlo on the tank at all times or only when you want to apply dot's or perhaps heal a DD for a while?
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    Excalibur
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Will01 View Post
    Thanks for this, i've never healed before in a game so i'm green as they come, I'll take all the help I can get, i'm finding it tough going at mo tbh.

    Do you guys keep adlo on the tank at all times or only when you want to apply dot's or perhaps heal a DD for a while?
    adlo is very mana costly compared to physick. I would use in situations where need a little time to dot or heal. Or in situation where healing output is the limiting factor such as coil/titan. Also it is good for casting on other healer if they are getting pounded on because the shield will help prevent them being interupted. Enabling them to get another cast off.
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    Last edited by sharazisspecial; 09-15-2013 at 09:19 PM.

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    Herpn Derpidus
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    Lamia
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    i just want the pet to not break out of steady when i tell her to cast embrace, and also i want to be able to actualy hit obey on a target (friendly target) and make her spam embrace anytime that specific target is no longer at 100% hp, that is all i want in terms of fairy control
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    Fenrenn Alexander
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by HerpnDerpidus View Post
    i just want the pet to not break out of steady when i tell her to cast embrace, and also i want to be able to actualy hit obey on a target (friendly target) and make her spam embrace anytime that specific target is no longer at 100% hp, that is all i want in terms of fairy control
    this is brilliant.
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    Vetinari Vhayne
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    Coeurl
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    If the tank is taking excessive damage due to adds or not avoiding a heavy boss hit, i'll alternate Adloquium - Physick - Adlo - Physick to bring him up again. But this is rare and not always necessary. Most of the time I'll pop Adlo and spam embrace to let the fairy top him up again, throwing in another Physick if needed. For big AoEs (like Titan), I try to pre-cast Succor to take the brunt of the initial hit, put Adlo on tank and then top everyone off asap, again using Embrace where/when possible. If I notice the entire party is losing health again, I'll throw another Succor on everyone.

    For standard dungeon trash mobs, Physick and Embrace suffices nicely, rarely do I need to even cast Adlo or Succor (unless we get a bunch of unforeseen adds or a pull goes bad). It's a matter of reading the encounter and putting up shields to prevent the damage from happening in the first place. Or to create a bit of breathing room when health bars start dropping too fast for your own comfort. Imho.
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    Zax Zarax
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    Odin
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Good read, thanks!
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    Thycin Laforet
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    Moogle
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    Conjurer Lv 35
    Placing correctly the fairy on some fights is really important (ie Garuda HM, just place her in the center, the aoe is easily dealt with and seems to be the only reliable way to have har heal the tank and everyone else during all phases)
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