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    You can MT Twintania with full AF2 + Gryphonskins overmelded and perform better in Threat/DPS department. Full iLvl 90 is just overkilling your HP sponge and not being able to generate enough threat to those really good DPS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaneshimaPopura View Post
    You can MT Twintania with full AF2 + Gryphonskins overmelded and perform better in Threat/DPS department. Full iLvl 90 is just overkilling your HP sponge and not being able to generate enough threat to those really good DPS.
    Twintania has so many lulls where your DPS aren't fighting her, it would be impossible for any tank capable of surviving to ever not hold threat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaneshimaPopura View Post
    You can MT Twintania with full AF2 + Gryphonskins overmelded and perform better in Threat/DPS department. Full iLvl 90 is just overkilling your HP sponge and not being able to generate enough threat to those really good DPS.
    Are you kidding me? By the time any DPS starts DPSing Twintania there is no DPS in the world that could catch up...

    PS: The redit discussion is not about BiS for PLDs...it's about BiS for OTs to increase their dmg output during non-tanking situations...
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    Last edited by TirionCrey; 11-28-2013 at 02:50 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TirionCrey View Post
    Are you kidding me? By the time any DPS starts DPSing Twintania there is no DPS in the world that could catch up...

    PS: The redit discussion is not about BiS for PLDs...it's about BiS for OTs to increase their dmg output during non-tanking situations...
    Please read the whole thread before jumping in and go guns blazing you fool. Threat issues is as I reclarified on my 2nd post for mainly Turn 4. And it does apply for Turn 5 Twintania, if you as a MT cannot generate enough threat you are capping your OT damage potential. I personally had to Riot Blade Stoneskin so many times cause I was going to overtake MT in threat. You are just a fool who hasn't cleared Twintania reliably to be commenting. And also there are times MT has to self cast Stoneskin where that extra threat helps a lot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaneshimaPopura View Post
    Please read the whole thread before jumping in and go guns blazing you fool. Threat issues is as I reclarified on my 2nd post for mainly Turn 4. And it does apply for Turn 5 Twintania, if you as a MT cannot generate enough threat you are capping your OT damage potential. I personally had to Riot Blade Stoneskin so many times cause I was going to overtake MT in threat. You are just a fool who hasn't cleared Twintania reliably to be commenting. And also there are times MT has to self cast Stoneskin where that extra threat helps a lot.
    I'm sorry but your MT sucks(or lacks equip) then when it comes to Twintania. T4 I agree. MT taking the Knight and Soldier and having 4 DPS go balls deep on both of them makes it hard on the MT to keep hate on both of them reliably. But that's what target switching is for. There is no noticable DPS loss if the DPS just switches to the OT's Knight/Soldier for 2 GCDs and the MT should be more than fine again to keep hate til they both die. And the only situation for the OT to hold back in T4 is on the first Dreadnought. If DPS has to hold back in W3/5/6 once again...the MT sucks.

    On Twintania...sorry my statement holds true. Your MT either sucks or lacks equip(meaning main body parts being itemlvl90 for extra STR). With the OT in Sword Oath and constantly being able to combo on Twintania during conflag phase, w/o being targeted once by conflag or a fireball during conflag he should reach 80-90% of MTs threat at the END of conflag phase max if the MT doesn't suck. There is no way a OT should ever come too close to the MT at any phase of Twintania, unless he completely ignores conflags and keeps DPSing Twintania the whole time...also I fail to see where there is a situation where the MT HAS to Stoneskin himself...I do it as well to help out the healers...but then the PLD should make sure to use it after a full combo, cause it interrupts your combo...same goes for Fracture...I assume your MT is not using Fracture...

    The simple reason for that is that at any given time the OT is actually DPSing Twintania, there are always mechanics in effect that "force" him to switch targets while the MT can go on building threat on Twintania except for Phase 1 and on Phase 1 the MT builds a buffer while OT is busy with the adds...and if that buffer is not enough til end of conflags...then once again...your MT is doing something wrong...

    Conflag Phase: OT switches to conflags
    Twister Phase: OT switches to Dreadknights
    Last Phase: OT goes into Neurolink every few seconds for eating the glowing ball.

    Once again...I say that your MT either sucks...or lacks the STR increasing body parts as itemlvl90 for you to be able to catch up...under no circumstances should the OT be able to rip off hate from the MT unless what I described is the case(sucking or lacking equip...)

    PS: Reliably kill Twintania to be commenting?...says the person who cleared it 6 days ago for the first time lol...
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    Last edited by TirionCrey; 11-29-2013 at 05:22 AM.